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post #41 of 59
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The rear gap closed off so warm air cannot be recirculated up thru there.


The front gap narrowed to the very front most inch or two allowing only cool air there to be drawn up.


I've noticed that hardly any air flows into the narrow vents on the top panel of the case, but according to a piece of tissue paper, a lot of air gets drawn thru the vertical slots at the very top on the back of the case. Low resistance along that path makes a lot of sense when you have the top mounted rad setup as exhaust, but not so much for intake. I have to experiment with sealing that off to avoid drawing in the warm exhaust being pushed out there thru all the open mesh below. This'll matter more once I place the case nearer a wall.


I also noticed the front panel really is very restrictive, too restrictive for overclocking. With the front panel snapped in place, not much air flows out thru the open pci slots at the back. With it pulled off, a piece of tissue paper held back there is flapping in the wind pretty good. Modding that front panel would definitely be a good idea for my build. But geez... cutting out a pattern in a 3mm piece of aluminum is kinda outside my skillset and not so easy for me to do. Maybe I'll bring it to a machine shop (techshop) someday...

But in the meantime, this workaround is effective... just don't snap it fully in place at the bottom pegs, prop it open a little down there instead.


Edited by michael-ocn - 10/18/15 at 8:52pm
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Finally hooked up my new x99 rig to a 1080p monitor, here's what it got with a 4.4 cpu oc and stock clocks on the 980ti ftw card.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8958509

For grins, here's what my 1st gen i7 + gtx670 ftw rig scores.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8916269
It can't handle firestrike very well, but not bad on the others.
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I do need to make some adjustments to case cooling. This is the first non-blower fan gpu I've had. The 980ti can really dump a lot of heat into the case, it's dissipating 250'ish watts worth of heat when full on. My case fans are setup to ramp up and down based on CPU temps. The 5820k is a BEAST of a cpu and can handle what would would be a pretty heavy load on a lesser device, w/o even breaking a sweat. So when running something like the 3DMark tests... besides the physics tests, the rest puts next to no load on the cpu, so the fans are running at near their slowest speed while the GPU is utterly max'd out and dumping heat like mad into the case.... mobo vrm's heat up, disk drives, gpu itself... get 5 to 10c warmer then it would of the case fans were to kick in. Meanwhile, the cpu is being cooled with mostly cool air from outside the case.

Some options, simplest to hardest...
- manually crank fans up with aisuite (or in the bios) prior to gaming
- switch to using the gpu's pwm signal as the basis for case fan speed (just need to split the signal coming off the gpu and feed it into a phanteks pwm splitter that's sitting here).
- Ideally I'd have the case fans be regulated by BOTH the gpu and cpu pwm signal. A mux that picks the max (or sum or weighted avg) of the two inputs and then drives the case fans according to that output. I have a neat "pwm splitter" that can take a one pwm signal and then use that to dc voltage regulate a handful of 3pin fans. That gizmo came with my phanteks case. What I don't have is a pwm mux device. I bet an arduino based thing could do that. Sample two pwm signals (interrupt to catch rising and falling edges), do some math with the two duty cycle values, then generate a pwm output signal with the desired duty cycle. That could be a fun project, more inline with my skill set than carving patterns into aluminum panels smile.gif

Reversing airflow thru the top rad? I'm veto'ing that because I just don't want to be running gpu exhaust thru the cpu's rad. The cpu would notice the extra heat the case fans would run faster as a result... but nope... i'm not gonna put hot air thru the rad.

aside... Ooooo.... just noticing I have 20 linux compatible game titles in steam, including the metro redux's... i might have to try that out on my mint partition smile.gif
Edited by michael-ocn - 10/20/15 at 11:59pm
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I started a separate thread about the custom fan controller.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1578212/fan-controller-that-responds-to-2-pwm-input-signals
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Where you able to fix the cooling problem?
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Where you able to fix the cooling problem?

It's working fine and i'm real happy with my new pc. It's not so much a problem as things for the hobbyist in me to make better. I have these two less then perfect case cooling things...

1) I leave the front of the case propped open a little at the bottom for improved airflow (pics in post #41). Otherwise, when closed, airflow thru the front panel is too restricted for an overclocked 5820k and 980ti.

2) I use aisuite to manually put the case fans on a more aggressive fan curve prior to gaming. Otherwise, when the gpu is busy but the cpu is not (some games), gpu exhaust doesn't get blown out of the case quickly enough.

And ideas about what to do about things in the longer term...

1) Bring the front and side panels to techshop.ws, put them on a cnc machine, and open em up a little. A grid of 1/4" inches holes in the acrylic window and some kind of vertical'esque slot pattern for the 3mm thick alum front panel.

2) The arduino based custom fan controller mentioned earlier.

I'm seriously thinking about the fan controller project. I think I'll do it.
Edited by michael-ocn - 10/25/15 at 4:49pm
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Some ideas for modding the front panel. I'm no artist these are very quickly thrown together to get some ideas. I think I like the gist of the offset vertical dashes in the top center. I wonder how Kickass spelled out in morse code looks? -.- .. -.-. -.- .- ... ... That might be kinda messy but I wonder what Kickass spelled top-to-bottom and bottom-to-top on adjacent columns would look like (with the dots on the same line as the dashes of course), or maybe just from top-to-bottom in all columns.




A rough sketch of what a morse pattern could look like.


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Yeah man I like the vent ideas, would you try and print a template for it or freehand it?
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Yeah man I like the vent ideas, would you try and print a template for it or freehand it?

I'd ask a CNC machine to do it, I think it would need some kind of programmatic description of where to cut.
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Yeah that would be pretty neat. What other mods (if any) where you planning on doing?
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