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Originally Posted by MadPolygon View Post
 

That's how the waterblock for the 390 Nitro will look like. Marc from liquidextasy.de sent me the render yesterday. Sadly there isn't enough space to run coolant directly above the VRMs too.

But ultimately I think it will still perform better that the Alphacool GPX block. First because copper is used instead of aluminium and second because the coolant still directly touches the VRM cooling part of copper, which is not the case with the gPX block.

 

Source: liquidextasy.de

 

The insufficient space may also be the reason why EK isn't gonna make a fullcover, despite the cards popularity... AFAIK the MSI 390 Gaming gets a fullcover block in february. And if you compare the pcbs of both cards, you can see the Sapphire one is more crowded.

MSI: link to image   Sapphire: link to image

I've heard terrible things about liquid extasy. 

 
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Sorry for bumping this.. I just wanted to point out that Marc is not someone you would want to buy a waterblock from, nor do any kind of business with. I'm bumping this for the sake of others. First, Marc doesn't speak english. It's very hard to communicate with him on email. He's also not exactly smart...in fact I've never dealt with such a bad business person:

I bought blocks from him, for my msi z77 mpower... I asked him to nickle plate my blocks and also paid a significant extra for it. He said "it's the best nickle you can get" when I was offering him to let me do it. He convinced me however to let him do it. He threw the plating job to some third-party person who did an incredibly crappy plating. Obviously that guy didn't know the purpose of the part he was plating. Marc also promised the block will be polished but it wasn't. It was only brushed and has that ugly brush finish to it. Marc didn't care that the guy did such a terrible job on it (destroying the block really). I asked him to send pictures of it once it's ready (hence before it ships out) and he deliberately ignored that request (see below why) and shipped it as is! mad.gif

This is the end result:



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copper bleeding out:



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and a better picture of the passive cooling area:



After exchanging hundred emails with him he started to communicate in german only and using a my friend who speaks german, I found out he just cusses me for blaming him for his crappy work and customer service. He said to me very clearly that he does NOT take responsibility for the nickle plating because "he didn't do it, someone else did".

DON'T BUY FROM THIS GUY. mad.gif

I'm not done here.. I'm gonna go to natively german forums who buy from this guy and make sure they know about this. He doesn't want to return my money (100 euros +) and takes advantage of the fact that paypal dispute is not possible since he requested payment 4 weeks ahead of shipping.

Just a general comment on his blocks. THEY ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE BIG NAMES LIKE EK, HEATKILLER, BITSPOWER, ETC' IN TERMS OF QUALITY. This is not bashing, it's the truth.

HE CHARGES PREMIUM FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO JUSTIFY THAT. THE CNC WORK ON THE BLOCK HAD SCRAPES ON IT FROM WHAT SEEMS TO BE MANUALLY MILLING THIS THING. SO UNPROFESSIONAL AND SO UNWILLING TO SETTLE THINGS FOR HIS CUSTOMERS. THE BLOCKS I HAVE ARE UNUSABLE, AND THE ELECTROLESS NICKLE PLATING HE USED CANNOT BE REMOVED FOR RE-PLATING SO OTHER THAN RE-PLATING WITH REGULAR NICKLE PROCESS WHICH ISN'T AS STRONG AS ELECTROLESS, I CAN'T DO SQUAT ABOUT IT (!). mad.gif
 
Over two years ago however, and Jakeusonfire has some good points in that thread. 

Edited by Lefik - 1/18/16 at 12:37pm
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post #22 of 70
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I've read that thread and there are some things:

 

  1. It's quite old, here is a newer one: http://www.overclock.net/t/1558157/liquid-extasy-full-cover-block-for-the-x99-e-ws-motherboard
  2. The user who posted his problem with the block there also posted it on german forum (could also be multiple ones, not sure anymore) and I read those too. I think it was a lot more clearly there (language barrier, his english was/is not the best (neither is mine)) that the owner of liquidExtasy tried his best to solve the problem. He offered to correct the mistake for free. Mistakes happen at some point.
  3. The nickel plating wasn't done by him, which he is now doing. And I think since then he refined and improved the process to deliver acceptable results.
  4. The block I'll use won't be nickel plated
  5. I'm basically getting the block for free, other than giving away my graphics card for some days, there is nothing I paid.

 

These are just my impressions and I'm not claiming that either one or the other side is correct in the conflict you posted.

post #23 of 70
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Originally Posted by MadPolygon View Post
 

I've read that thread and there are some things:

 

  1. It's quite old, here is a newer one: http://www.overclock.net/t/1558157/liquid-extasy-full-cover-block-for-the-x99-e-ws-motherboard
  2. The user who posted his problem with the block there also posted it on german forum (could also be multiple ones, not sure anymore) and I read those too. I think it was a lot more clearly there (language barrier, his english was/is not the best (neither is mine)) that the owner of liquidExtasy tried his best to solve the problem. He offered to correct the mistake for free. Mistakes happen at some point.
  3. The nickel plating wasn't done by him, which he is now doing. And I think since then he refined and improved the process to deliver acceptable results.
  4. The block I'll use won't be nickel plated
  5. I'm basically getting the block for free, other than giving away my graphics card for some days, there is nothing I paid.

 

These are just my impressions and I'm not claiming that either one or the other side is correct in the conflict you posted.

I wasn't trying to take a side; just though it might be worth mentioning. It's good to hear he's doing his own nickel plating now though.

Anyway, this build looks pretty interesting, gonna be following along :D 


Edited by Lefik - 1/18/16 at 4:29pm
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post #24 of 70
Heh, had an email notification over this.. this is a great looking project. As for that incident, I got rid of that block and will never contact LE again. However, fingers crossed that Marc took a lesson from it and is now producing acceptable products. I have no intention to prolong discussion in this matter, so this will be my only post relating to it.
post #25 of 70
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Originally Posted by Lefik View Post
 

I wasn't trying to take a side; just though it might be worth mentioning. It's good to hear he's doing his own nickel plating now though.

Anyway, this build looks pretty interesting, gonna be following along :D 

Yeah it's fine, it's certainly good to have input from other users. Sorry if my post appeared aggressive in any way.

And thanks for following :thumb:

 

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Originally Posted by adi518 View Post

Heh, had an email notification over this.. this is a great looking project. As for that incident, I got rid of that block and will never contact LE again. However, fingers crossed that Marc took a lesson from it and is now producing acceptable products. I have no intention to prolong discussion in this matter, so this will be my only post relating to it.

Thanks biggrinsmiley.gif.

Totally fine, I mean it is just your right as a consumer to decide which company you buy stuff from and from which you don't.

Anyway, I'm optimistic and will definitely report back ;).

post #26 of 70
Thread Starter 

Some color...laughingsmiley.gif

 

 

post #27 of 70
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In terms of the lighting, I made some progress :D . It's not the prettiest UI and more of a beta right now, but for the moment it should work.

Hope I can upload a quick demo video at the weekend ;) .

 

post #28 of 70
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Here is a small demo:

post #29 of 70
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So today I got some new plexi thats only satiniced on one side in my mail.

Bent a small test piece of 10cm x 20cm.

Here you can see the bending table in action  ;)

 

 

 

Was curious about the current draw, so I connected my multimeter

 

 

The result...

 

 

 

Prepping it for painting. I'm gonna test 2 different types of paint on the two halfes. 

The orange tape is 1,6mm wide, blue 3,2mm, red 4mm. To avoid the fiddling with the tape I'm gonna get the design plotted on masking foil.

 

 

Also the new fittings for PETG tubes B)

 

 

 

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