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The minority of those who don't believe the content of this thread typically don't play many games, so they are yet to run into these kind of issues. But it's up to them if they believe it or not. You can take water to the horse but you can't make them drink it. I just hope AMD do make things better for all of us. That's why I created this thread. Not to argue with fellow AMD users, but to bring us together to share information and collectively demand a better software product for our GPU's.
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Use Afterburner instead of words.

See, if you did not post the link to your FS run . . . you would not know that single rank sucks.

edit: Five years of wait and suffering is just stupid. Go green. They've fixed the TDRs.

I've checked a lot of FS results on 3DMark website. Overall, the R2's (8GB chips) @ 2400MHz and higher don't seem to offer much more performance in the combined and physics test which is interesting. At first I thought yeah, R2's might be a good option. Now I'm not so sure.

As for usage screenshots, I can grab some if you want, but do know that GCN can't be read correctly, and task manager does not accurately record core usage due to how Windows handles CPU time through the OS when "mGPU's" and how it reports it between cores. Again, I will wait a little while longer to see if DX12 does make a difference for my 290X's. If not, I may indeed move to Nvidia. Do remember, I had a test buddy confirm some of what I've said on this thread so far. I also demonstrated this topic in depth at a University. Of course I can't prove it because it was not recorded. Completely up to you if you believe me or not on that.

But yeah, if things don't improve, I will be looking at the 980 Ti or their Pascal chips in the future. thumb.gif

Thank you.
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I tested with Frame Pacing Off and still get lower performance with CFX On then Off in specific part of the game.

Thank you for testing the specific locations. This confirms about half of the content of this thread and shows my system is not suffering from isolated issues such as my "CPU Overclock", or my "software settings".

+1.
Edited by BradleyW - 9/24/15 at 10:34am
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indeed it does. the easier the resolution is the hgiher the load will be due to DX11 poor cpu usage
a problem that isnt an issue when you are GPU limited or the game doesnt have poor DX11 optiization...so anyone with a single gpu wontt have any issue as far the Game is GPU limited.
On Nvidia sponsored games or...?
you cant change that DX11 only uses 1 thread to communicate the GPU to the CPU

Another thing you can't change is the extreme bias overhead. Sometimes there is so much overhead they can't see clearly.

CPU load does not change because resolution changes. Prove me otherwise. The rest of what you just said there can be summarized as "if you are GPU bound, then everything will be fine". Yeah, we got that.
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I tested with Frame Pacing Off and still get lower performance with CFX On then Off in specific part of the game.

can you post something like this . . .




thats 1080.
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can you post something like this . . .




thats 1080.
what's that you're using for OSD ?
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Your results are obviously not critical, otherwise you would provide a more systematic corollaries rather than purely anectodal ones.
For instance,




Is it the AMD drivers, still?
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what's that you're using for OSD ?

not sure what it is. just found it in YT. I use AB in the background. like here when i was testing my second reference 290 on air . . .



i was unable to get my gpus to run full tilt in C3 coz the second gpu was throttling. AB can reveal stuff.
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Anyone with amd gpus should disable powerplay...
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not sure what it is. just found it in YT. I use AB in the background. like here when i was testing my second reference 290 on air . . .



i was unable to get my gpus to run full tilt in C3 coz the second gpu was throttling. AB can reveal stuff.

Doesn't AB monitoring have issues with hawaii chips?
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Doesn't AB monitoring have issues with hawaii chips?

nah, it works. i just make sure voltage monitoring is unchecked. not sure about the latest driver or version of AB. haven't used it in awhile. it does conflict with other apps like CCC or Fraps in the past.
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You need to enable dx monitoring for amd gpus for better gpu monitoring.

If your ab doesnt look like this then you are doing it wrong.

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