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That's like saying you don't need car insurance if you as long as you drive carefully or you don't need health insurance because you never get sick.

All it takes in 1 time and you are screwed. Screwed much more than if you had the insurance in the first place. AV is the same way, it could have prevented the connection or blocked the dirty USB stick.


Stuff happens unexpectedly. Being careful is not good enough. You need AV just like you need Insurance. You may not ever see the need until it happens.

They are so different. There is no reset for a Accident or some random idiot driver hitting you. That random idiot computer use cant possibly know how to use a computer to accidentally sent you a virus.
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post #152 of 191
This thread is getting hilarious. Why are we even still debating this?

Can't we all just agree to disagree and move on with our lives? biggrin.gif
post #153 of 191
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How would this DNS redirection scheme have led to malware being installed on your PC?

You are interpreting his post backwards. DNS Redirection does not install the malware, the malware installed is responsible for redirecting the user to malicious domains.

"As the name suggests, DNS Hijacking or Redirection is a method used by cybercriminals to hijack your browser’s attempt to resolve the IP address of the website you wish to load. For ease of use, the URLs we use are in text format. For each URL, there is an IP address and a set of operations go into converting the text URL into a numerical IP address. Since there are many operations involved in resolving the IP address, cybercriminals can take advantage of the delay and send to your computer, a fake IP address that belongs to them.

The most common method for DNS Hijacking is to install a malware on your computer that changes the DNS so that whenever your browser tries to resolve an URL, it contacts one of the fake DNS servers instead of real DNS servers that are used by ICANN (authority of Internet that is responsible for registering domains, managing them, providing them with IP addresses, maintaining the contact addresses and more). The direct DNS servers that your computer contacts are the DNS servers being operated by your Internet Service Provider – unless you’ve changed them to something else. When an internet connection is bought, the DNS servers in use are of the ISP – recognized by ICANN.

The malware on your computer changes the default DNS trusted by your computer to point to some other IP address. That way, when your browser tries to resolve an IP address, your computer contacts a fake DNS server that gives you wrong IP address. This results in your browser loading a malicious website that may compromise your computer or steal your credentials etc."

Look here for more, if you care: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/what-is-dns-hijacking-prevention

Like I said before, lets all go our separate ways. Debating this with each other IS indeed pointless as our opinions are clearly divided on this issue.
Edited by iAmCodeMonkey - 9/21/15 at 5:58pm
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You are interpreting his post backwards. DNS Redirection does not install the malware, the malware installed is responsible for redirecting the user to malicious domains.

"As the name suggests, DNS Hijacking or Redirection is a method used by cybercriminals to hijack your browser’s attempt to resolve the IP address of the website you wish to load. For ease of use, the URLs we use are in text format. For each URL, there is an IP address and a set of operations go into converting the text URL into a numerical IP address. Since there are many operations involved in resolving the IP address, cybercriminals can take advantage of the delay and send to your computer, a fake IP address that belongs to them.

The most common method for DNS Hijacking is to install a malware on your computer that changes the DNS so that whenever your browser tries to resolve an URL, it contacts one of the fake DNS servers instead of real DNS servers that are used by ICANN (authority of Internet that is responsible for registering domains, managing them, providing them with IP addresses, maintaining the contact addresses and more). The direct DNS servers that your computer contacts are the DNS servers being operated by your Internet Service Provider – unless you’ve changed them to something else. When an internet connection is bought, the DNS servers in use are of the ISP – recognized by ICANN.

The malware on your computer changes the default DNS trusted by your computer to point to some other IP address. That way, when your browser tries to resolve an IP address, your computer contacts a fake DNS server that gives you wrong IP address. This results in your browser loading a malicious website that may compromise your computer or steal your credentials etc."

Look here for more, if you care: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/what-is-dns-hijacking-prevention

Like I said before, lets all go our separate ways. Debating this with each other IS indeed pointless as our opinions are clearly divided on this issue.

The last time I had a DNS redirection attack was in like 2002 on dial-up running Windows ME. If you use a router with it's own DNS settings for your entire home LAN, I would imagine this prevents those attacks, too.

Also, from experience. I do scan for viruses from time to time, but I never had anything get tagged since started using NoScript since like 2005 or when ever it first came out.

On the other hand, my mother and sister get infected once every few years even though they run anti-virus software.

The best prevention is still Common Sense 2015 Pro Edition.
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post #155 of 191
After reading the Avira privacy policy, I am failing to see how it is any better. With Avira, it seems that they collect and sell your search history if you use their safe-search feature, but is AVG any different/worse somehow?
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With Avira, it seems that they collect and sell your search history if you use their safe-search feature

Good thing I don't use that feature.
post #157 of 191
Lol. I quit using AVG when it started making my grandmother's Dimension 3000 so slow it was unusable. Too resource intensive.
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You are interpreting his post backwards. DNS Redirection does not install the malware, the malware installed is responsible for redirecting the user to malicious domains.

How does the malware get installed in the first place?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1574164/wired-avg-can-sell-your-browsing-and-search-history-to-advertisers/130#post_24434548

"The AV I am using ....... has saved me from several DNS redirection tricks where I have provided an example above"

If you're getting redirected to a malicious domain by malware installed on your system, clearly your anti-virus has failed to protect you. And as I said before, it's not even clear if Colonel Gerdauf in his example is talking about a web server or a personal computer. I'm not understanding. Sorry.
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That random idiot computer use cant possibly know how to use a computer to accidentally sent you a virus.

Its called Social Engineering: "It could happen to YOUUUUUUU!" -Frank Sinatra
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Its called Social Engineering: "It could happen to YOUUUUUUU!" -Frank Sinatra

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