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And why would you ever run an executable you accidentally downloaded from an advertisement.

"Websites or web publishers unknowingly incorporate a corrupted or malicious advertisement into their page. Once the advertisement is in place, and visitors begin clicking on it, their computer can become infected: "the user clicks on the ad to visit the advertised site, and instead is directly infected or redirected to a malicious site. These sites trick users into copying viruses or spyware usually disguised as Flash files, which are very popular on the web." Redirection is often built into online advertising, and this spread of malware is often successful because users expect a redirection to happen when clicking on an advertisement. A redirection that is taking place only needs to be co-opted in order to infect a user's computer.

Malvertising often involves the exploitation of trustworthy companies. Those attempting to spread malware place "clean" advertisements on trustworthy sites first in order to gain a good reputation, then they later "insert a virus or spyware in the code behind the ad, and after a mass virus infection is produced, they remove the virus", thus infecting all visitors of the site during that time period. The identities of those responsible are often hard to trace, making it hard to prevent the attacks or stop them altogether, because the "ad network infrastructure is very complex with many linked connections between ads and click-through destinations."

Look here for more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvertising
post #52 of 191
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Originally Posted by Fossil View Post

I've had one intrusion on my PC in the last 14 years. I still have AV because, like another user said, its an extra layer of protection. It doesn't matter if the URL's it blocks were not infact malicious even if it said they were. Boom, one less potential issue to worry about. I wash my hands and move on, forgetting it ever happened by tomorrow.

There is no loss of performance for me and what privacy? Haha... "competant", hilarious. By using a computer connected to the internet you gave up your privacy. Facts are facts. Is my life affected by the little info they data mine from my PC? Nope.

nope. you do not give up your privacy connecting to the internet; you give up your privacy when you allow someone to take it from you. wink.gif
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post #53 of 191
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"Websites or web publishers unknowingly incorporate a corrupted or malicious advertisement into their page. Once the advertisement is in place, and visitors begin clicking on it, their computer can become infected: "the user clicks on the ad to visit the advertised site, and instead is directly infected or redirected to a malicious site. These sites trick users into copying viruses or spyware usually disguised as Flash files, which are very popular on the web." Redirection is often built into online advertising, and this spread of malware is often successful because users expect a redirection to happen when clicking on an advertisement. A redirection that is taking place only needs to be co-opted in order to infect a user's computer.

Malvertising often involves the exploitation of trustworthy companies. Those attempting to spread malware place "clean" advertisements on trustworthy sites first in order to gain a good reputation, then they later "insert a virus or spyware in the code behind the ad, and after a mass virus infection is produced, they remove the virus", thus infecting all visitors of the site during that time period. The identities of those responsible are often hard to trace, making it hard to prevent the attacks or stop them altogether, because the "ad network infrastructure is very complex with many linked connections between ads and click-through destinations."

Look here for more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvertising

Which is why I use adblock and ghostery. Seriously AV is not the be all, end all solution. No ads = no malware from ads, period. Ghostery blocks all re-directs. I've got myself covered without AV, trust me.

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nope. you do not give up your privacy connecting to the internet; you give up your privacy when you allow someone to take it from you. wink.gif

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All I will say is that I know a guy who has been in corporate IT security for well over 15 years, there are white hat hackers and penetration testers on OCN and all laugh at the ignorance that 'No AV and I'm OK' people there are. Yes education and 'common sense' are good but far from bulletproof. I'm part of an IT team that caters for thousands of users and we get attacked every single day. I can view all the auto blocked email notices (informs the user an email sent from or to them that an emails been blocked in case of false positives which does happen) in a single mailbox and some are very clever and can easily get past 'common sense'.

Even basic phishing emails are getting quite clever, let alone other stuff like infected ads on legitimate sites that the ad company doesn't know about. OCN, a real dodgy site right? We've served infected third party ads at least twice.

Like it's been said no AV is like no birth control.
Edited by chinesekiwi - 9/19/15 at 5:49pm
post #55 of 191
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All I will say is that I know a guy who has been in corporate IT security for well over 15 years, there are white hat hackers and penetration testers on OCN and all laugh at the ignorance that 'No AV and I'm OK' people there are. Yes education and 'common sense' are good but far from bulletproof. I'm part of an IT team that caters for thousands of users and we get attacked every single day. I can view all the auto blocked email notices (informs the user an email sent from or to them that an emails been blocked in case of false positives which does happen) in a single mailbox and some are very clever and can easily get past 'common sense'.

Even basic phishing emails are getting quite clever, let alone other stuff like infected ads on legitimate sites that the ad company doesn't know about. OCN, a real dodgy site right? We've served infected third party ads at least twice.

Like it's been said no AV is like no birth control.

I don't open emails from sources I don't know and my spam box gets 20+ per day. You'd have to be real thick to download an attachment from a source you don't know, let alone opening the email to begin with.

As far as ads, my previous post explains that. Ads and spam emails don't scare me. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif that's kindergarten.

Phishing emails getting sophisticated? They are along the lines of "Saw your FB profile, want sex to you, need credit card number for verify account" and I'm sorry but if you fall for that, you deserve it.

No AV like no birth control? That's assuming you have sex orrr uhhh... assuming you download and install viruses, comparatively.
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I am not afraid to admit I am being arrogant about a subject I am 100% sure I know more about, and have more experience with, than you. The difference between you and me is I'll admit to being arrogant, you won't. You won't admit you're being paranoid, even though you keep exemplifying my points and your actions match the textbook definition of the word

Oh please. I won't admit to being paranoid, because I am not. My "actions" match the "textbook definition"? Get real. This is an internet forum for crying out loud, you keep preaching your single opinion as fact when it is clearly not. No one cares about your "20 years of experience" or whatever else. You are a random person on the internet. Anybody can pull numbers like this out of their ass with no proof to back it up.
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you won't admit the chances of getting a virus are slim to none, you won't admit AV hogs resources and hurts performance, and now that there's proof of AV spying on your browsing habits and selling them, you still stick up for AV and you still won't admit to any of my points being true and yet I'm the arrogant one? I will agree, but not without calling out your arrogant stubbornness first.

I don't need to admit to any of this crap, as I don't use the vendor mentioned in the article anyways. I use Avira. It does not hog resources nor does it hurt performance on my machine. Its perfectly fine: http://www.trustedreviews.com/best-free-antivirus_round-up_Page-4

I am REALLY curious to see what is floating around in your machine if you are so damn "smart" enough to never scan your machine for viruses. Which is more ignorant and lazy than smart.
Edited by iAmCodeMonkey - 9/19/15 at 6:30pm
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Phishing emails getting sophisticated? They are along the lines of "Saw your FB profile, want sex to you, need credit card number for verify account" and I'm sorry but if you fall for that, you deserve it.

Um no. They are actually masquerading as emails from legitimate companies now.

Oh, and the whole "if you fell for it, you deserve it" mentality is quite silly. Try saying that to a female rape victim in real life and see how far that gets you.
post #58 of 191
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Does Avira still do the million popups thing? The AV is really good but thoes popups killed it for me.

yes
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All I will say is that I know a guy who has been in corporate IT security for well over 15 years, there are white hat hackers and penetration testers on OCN and all laugh at the ignorance that 'No AV and I'm OK' people there are. Yes education and 'common sense' are good but far from bulletproof. I'm part of an IT team that caters for thousands of users and we get attacked every single day. I can view all the auto blocked email notices (informs the user an email sent from or to them that an emails been blocked in case of false positives which does happen) in a single mailbox and some are very clever and can easily get past 'common sense'.

Even basic phishing emails are getting quite clever, let alone other stuff like infected ads on legitimate sites that the ad company doesn't know about. OCN, a real dodgy site right? We've served infected third party ads at least twice.

Like it's been said no AV is like no birth control.

Bolded and re-quoted for truth.
Edited by iAmCodeMonkey - 9/19/15 at 6:47pm
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So thats why I keep getting Pr0n advertisements... Oh wait I don't have AVG :D

 

I hate advertisements thats why I got rid of my TV there was more commercials then programing. And online I use adblock which gets rid of most of the junk. As far as AVG goes AVG is a virus in itself If a program needs a 3rd party program to remove it then its a virus so I will never use AVG.

 

What AVG is doing selling your history to advertisers its no different then google or bing or any other company that already does that.


Edited by ozlay - 9/19/15 at 6:54pm
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