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Originally Posted by Wihglah View Post

Stop being a fanboy and recognise a company with shoddy products who don't give a damn about their customers.

I'm not being a fanboy, i'm stating fact.

You linked two articles that have been shown to be wrong, by the ppl that first complained about the issue. They literally said "The discovered issue has much bigger impact than we originally expected and is not caused by Samsung SSDs, as we originally assumed. My personal apologies to Samsung!" https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-drives-are-not-that-solid/

Ok, the first fix didn't work as intended. Personally, it took like 6 months for degradation to start happening again after the first fix on my EVO. The second fix, so far has worked beautifully.

If you don't beleive me about how the fix works, here's from the guy who first reviewed the fix, @malventano: http://www.overclock.net/t/1507897/samsung-840-evo-read-speed-drops-on-old-written-data-in-the-drive/2860#post_23909666

"5 samples that had slowed significantly did not initiate an optimization pass on their own and saw near full read speed simply by applying the update. That data took months to slow to that point. Let's assume conservatively that a worst-case 840 EVO self-triggered an optimization every two months. and that the SSD was completely full during those actions (meaning the entire SSD flash space must be refreshed). That is only 6 full drive writes per year. Using an (again worst case) 1000 flash erase cycle figure, that comes to 0.6% of the drive life consumed per year. Measurable? Yes - but I had to go out of my way to come up with a scenario that results in a non-negligible figure. I had 5 actual worst case samples that sat on a shelf since the last update and had slowed significantly, yet snapped back instantly once the update was applied. Based on these results, it is unlikely that we will see patched 840 EVOs burning through flash cycles to any noticeable degree.

A lot of what Samsung says gets lost in translation / muddled by their various PR firms (they have several) as the message gets passed along. For that reason I don't blindly follow any statements that come from those channels. I always verify it for myself. In this case their statement was actually more aggressive than reality. Their initial statement made it look like Magician was going to be a band-aid and would basically do a refresh pass every so often. This was not the actual case once we got the update in-hand and could see it in action."
Edited by Palorim12 - 9/21/15 at 12:45pm
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OP I have a Samsung 850 pro in my desktop and an 850 EVO in my laptop. Have had zero issues with either. As for the 840 EVO, I still personally have one in service and while its fixed now, their customer service did take a big ding as far as im concerned anyway. They handled the whole thing very poorly. Still, they make good drives IMO and I have installed a lot of the 250 GB version 850 EVOs with no problems to date with the exception of one drive DOA. I would estimate ive put in about 20 of them via work and updates for friends and family.

On Crucial, mostly what im installing for people (They buy their own parts to save money) is the MX200s and those have been fine too. Installed a lot of these as the price is usually better than the EVO. Still these are the two i see the most. The OCZ drives ive installed, most have had problems of one kind or another, but they are not on your list. Anyway, obviously still a very small sampling, but your asking for opinions from users.
   
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Do Not Get A Samsung.

There are several serious issues with most of the range.

Yes Samsung had issues with their 2D TLC flash. Those issues were corrected (I reported on it personally). The articles you cited are out of date information. Further, Samsung's V-NAND equipped products are running circles around all competing SSDs, and have been selling at among the most competitive cost/GB available. I guess my point is don't spread FUD about what are now solid and highly competitive products. Nearly every SSD manufacturer has had some sort of past issue that they had to correct - that doesn't mean you need to crucify them until the end of time.
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Always bought crucial have 3 of their SSDs (M500, MX100 and BX100) and they are all great, however I recently bought a 500GB 850 evo and very happy with my purchase so reccomend both.

Are you coming from a HDD or a SSD?
post #15 of 18
Yea I agree, too much FUD about Samsung's SSD problems, some problems remain of course, like the NCQ TRIM issue in Linux.
But it's possible to avoid.

There is one thing they are worth crucifying for though: they never did release a fix for the original 840 SSD...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1519058/the-we-want-our-840-non-evo-ssd-fixed-also
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Per Hansson View Post

There is one thing they are worth crucifying for though: they never did release a fix for the original 840 SSD...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1519058/the-we-want-our-840-non-evo-ssd-fixed-also

I think they may make good on that one. I've certainly been leaning on them about it for long enough.
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by malventano View Post

I think they may make good on that one. I've certainly been leaning on them about it for long enough.

I'm from the future, and they have fixed the problem.
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WOW you are from the future, that was a thread from 9/22/15, Impressive! wink.gif
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