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OK, I am running Win 7 Pro 64-bit. The little "update to Win" 10 icon appeared and I reserved a copy. Word came my upgrade was available. Upgrade failed through the update method. I burned a copy with the media creation tool, this went OK. Well it went OK until I was asked to input my key code, "code not accepted or recognized". This is a copy of Win 7 I acquired through school, a copy that I was told was just the same as store bought. If Microsoft was not going to allow activation I ask that they quit wasting my time sending out notifications "that my upgrade was ready". The Win 7 copy is activated and I saved the paperwork from when the OS was sent to me. At least Microsoft could say (or ask) at the start of the download process if you are going to try and use an activation key you acquired from the MSDNAA program. I post seeking input from others that tried to upgrade a copy of Win 7 they got from a participation College, what was your result?

On another line. I work the computer center at my senior center. Seniors are getting taken in by the "free" label (aren't all Americans seeking something "free"). Many are doing the upgrade then coming to me and asking how to return to Win 7. I try and catch these people before they accept the upgrade but some are slipping by. It seems the seniors just do not want to spend one extra minute on things related to their computer. I had one married couple claim they are getting more adds due to the switch to Win 10, like it was my fault.
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Windows 7 licenses obtained through MSDNAA definitely work. I've upgraded several computers with such licenses. However, what you can not do is initiate a fresh install with an upgrade licence. Which is what you attempted.

If you want to do a fresh install of W10 from W7, with the free upgrade. You must first do an in place upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10. Once on windows 10, you will be able to retrieve your license key and use that to do a fresh install.

As to you stopping seniors... jesus... Let them do what they want. Just because you haven't had success with windows 10 doesn't mean they won't like the benefits and it's still your job to support them.
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Hello Tact. I ask, just what is an "in place upgrade from Win 7". Hey the seniors come to me asking how to return to Win 7. If they come to me for advice (advice on if they should take the Win 10 deal) I make an appraisal as to just how much relearning they can do and advise accordingly.

I already have my Win 7 license key ,I saved the documentation provided when I received it. I have tried installing from a Win 10 DVD iso burn, then it pops up asking for me to input my key, then says "oops" key no good.

If an "in place upgrade" is letting the upgrade happen by means of windows update I let that run also, I have twice received "update failed"

Edit: rather that mess around and do an entire new Win 7 install, hope it activates, then work the upgrade process(you are limited too how many activations per key) I am going to play it safe with this one and leave it Win 7. In reality my point was, unless Microsoft detects all is in order with your current OS they should not do this blanket send out of "hey your upgrade is waiting" when in reality that may not be true. I do have one machine running Win 10 so I am not losing out on the experience (Ha,Ha) but I just do not trust Microsoft enough to put an activated OS on the card table so to speak.
The number of people coming to me wanting to go back to Win 7 increases everyday. Since I do not get a cut from Microsoft for selling Win 10 I simply agree and say "you are correct you should go back to Win 7". People just can't resist something that carries the "free' price tag, then once they get it they want to go back. Myself, I happen to like Win 10 but I consider the relearn minimal, something not everybody sees the same.
Edited by PCCstudent - 9/20/15 at 7:08pm
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You might have had a misstep somewhere. It should be Fully activated Windows 7 -> Upgrade from ISO -> Skip Product Key Input -> Finish Setup -> Check Activation Status -> Activate Online if necessary.
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You might have had a misstep somewhere. It should be Fully activated Windows 7 -> Upgrade from ISO -> Skip Product Key Input -> Finish Setup -> Check Activation Status -> Activate Online if necessary.
That's the way to do it...............
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Thanks Ciga.Bill. If I was going to continue on that is exactly the way I would do it. One question. Are MSDNAA copies considered volume licenses?

Edit: It seems it is going to be more difficult for those that like to do every 6 month OS reloads with Win 10.
Edited by PCCstudent - 9/21/15 at 3:23am
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Thanks Ciga.Bill. If I was going to continue on that is exactly the way I would do it. One question. Are MSDNAA copies considered volume licenses?

Edit: It seems it is going to be more difficult for those that like to do every 6 month OS reloads with Win 10.

They are MAK keys if I recall correctly. Even if you reach the limit, you can still phone MS.

As for OS reloads, you should look into creating an image from a fresh install. It will save a lot of time. I believe with Pro it is built-in, so all you have to do is start in recovery mode and select the image.
Edited by GigaChip - 9/21/15 at 10:00am
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Hello Giga, well I just may get on the phone then. As I mentioned I am a Win 10 "fan" it is just I do not want to jeopardize my activation. As most of us here also have I have gotten on the phone many times with Microsoft for previous OSes, I certainly can do it again.

I wonder if there will be any justification at all with Win 10 as there was with Win 7 to periodically do a fresh install.
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I wonder if there will be any justification at all with Win 10 as there was with Win 7 to periodically do a fresh install.

Probably not seeing as you can just "refresh" Windows 10.
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LOL..

As far as I'm concerned, If you're doing basic computer maintenance regularly there's never a reason (otter than borking it) to have to do reinstall .

That being said, you can always download a Win 10 .iso and do a full install.
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