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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

duh? ...
You know Nvidia actually held a Pascal prototype validation board on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people with HBM chips on the card back in March right?
Samsung has had samples of their chips ready for months now, and Hynix had samples ready for quite some time last year.



And that could very well be HBM1 too,for sampling the design.
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post #42 of 55
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Originally Posted by Serios View Post

Hynix was involved in the final stages of the development, really all the info is on the internet what doesn't anybody read it?

"Development inside AMD"
Translation: We want HBM for our GPUs. Who can we contact to make it happen?
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Originally Posted by GorillaSceptre View Post

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Nvidia and AMD will use HBM 2, end of story. But implying that AMD had hardly anything to do with HBM's development is just crazy talk..
"End of story"? No this isnt the end.

  • The OP says Hynix have been supplying Nvidia with HBM1 for a while. There is a reason for that.
  • We have read the rumors many months ago that a Pascal chip had taped out and was ready for Q1 release. With HBM2 that doesnt exist...?
  • Then its the fact that Hynix and Samsung doesnt begin HBM2 mass production until sometime early next year according to the article. Will Nvidia sit idling and wait for summer to finally have enough HBM2 to release a card, or will they release a card with HBM1 thats been available for many months so they can get the first Pascal out the door?

All we have is rumors about Pascal using HBM2 in general. So don`t be so sure.

Do you just never read, or do you live off of lies?
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Making this sort of innovation happen was a broadly collaborative effort. AMD did much of the initial the heavy lifting, designing the interconnects, interposer, and the new DRAM type. Hynix partnered with AMD to produce the DRAM, and UMC manufactured the first interposers. JEDEC, the standards body charged with blessing new memory types, gave HBM the industry's blessing, which means this memory type should be widely supported by various interested firms.
http://techreport.com/review/28294/amd-high-bandwidth-memory-explained

This has been known for a looooong time.
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

No it was developed by Hynix because AMD demanded something that was efficient yet could give bandwidth enough for future use.
People may give way too much credit to AMD for this. I bet AMDs contribution was supplying chips that could test the HBM stacks for Hynix.

Like the article says, Hynix have been supplying Nvidia too for a good while now. There goes the HBM exclusivity BS thats been floating around for far too long and was put out there by one of the worst rumor sites out there yet people gave it far too much value.
Right now AMD and Nvidia both are regular customers to Hynix. The difference is that AMD have a product that use HBM now while Nvidia is currently stockpiling HBM and building upcoming Pascal cards that will use it.
Hynix was involved in the final stages of the development, really all the info is on the internet what doesn't anybody read it?
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Macri said the HBM development effort started inside of AMD seven years ago, so not long after GDDR5 was fully baked. He and his team were concerned about the growing proportion of the total PC power budget consumed by memory, and they suspected that memory power consumption would eventually become a limiting factor in overall performance.

People do read it. Most who don't either ask for a source or don't comment.
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post #43 of 55
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No it was developed by Hynix because AMD demanded something that was efficient yet could give bandwidth enough for future use.
People may give way too much credit to AMD for this. I bet AMDs contribution was supplying chips that could test the HBM stacks for Hynix.

Like the article says, Hynix have been supplying Nvidia too for a good while now. There goes the HBM exclusivity BS thats been floating around for far too long and was put out there by one of the worst rumor sites out there yet people gave it far too much value.
Right now AMD and Nvidia both are regular customers to Hynix. The difference is that AMD have a product that use HBM now while Nvidia is currently stockpiling HBM and building upcoming Pascal cards that will use it.

Then please stop posting "news" from "one of the worst rumor sites out there" all over the "News" section. Would be appreciated. thumb.gif
post #44 of 55
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Originally Posted by GorillaSceptre View Post

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Nvidia and AMD will use HBM 2, end of story. But implying that AMD had hardly anything to do with HBM's development is just crazy talk..

Really? REALLY? rolleyes.gif

How about go read the whitepapers or ask Hynix about it? rolleyes.gif
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Really? REALLY? rolleyes.gif

How about go read the whitepapers or ask Hynix about it? rolleyes.gif

I did.. That's how i Know AMD had a large part in developing HBM.

So yes, REALLY. thumb.gif
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I did.. That's how i Know AMD had a large part in developing HBM.

So yes, REALLY. thumb.gif

Oh, guess I took it the wrong way around. Sorry. thumb.gif
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Oh, guess I took it the wrong way around. Sorry. thumb.gif

All good. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

duh? ...
You know Nvidia actually held a Pascal prototype validation board on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people with HBM chips on the card back in March right?
Samsung has had samples of their chips ready for months now, and Hynix had samples ready for quite some time last year.

From what we know that could have been 3d printed or not in a working condition.
It's like I saw in a Lamborghini documentary where they built an exact model of one of the their cars...out of wax.

Everybody who was interested got HBM samples, I don't understand why you try to make it sound like such a huge deal when it's not.
The only company that is being supplied whit HBM chips right now it AMD, who actually uses them in real and working products.
Edited by Serios - 9/22/15 at 10:32pm
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From what we know that could have been 3d printed or not in a working condition.
It's like I saw in a Lamborghini documentary where they built an exact model of one of the their cars...out of wax.
Yeah, it wouldn't be unexpected of Nvidia. But at least no wood screws this time biggrin.gif
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Yeah, it wouldn't be unexpected of Nvidia. But at least no wood screws this time biggrin.gif

This time? rolleyes.gif
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