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My WD black runs so loud and hot its actually louder then my WD VR's

I wish samsung was still around I love my F3R :wubsmiley 


Edited by ozlay - 9/25/15 at 10:19am
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My WD black runs so loud and hot its actually louder then my WD VR's
I wish samsung was still around I love my F3R wubsmiley.gif  

Samsung moved on to future pastures, SSD. I'm hoping they'll get to the large format SSDs, I don't care if they are slightly slower. I just want it for games, primary OS drive should always be the faster.
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Oddly enough my fastest HDDs are, in order; 4TB Red, 2TB Green, 1TB Black. Reverse that order and you get the loudest and hottest.

I don't see a point for WD Blacks in the future.

Want speed for OS? SSD. On a very tight budget? 1TB WD Blue / SeaGate's offering.
Want consumer-grade storage? WD Red.

WD Blacks are loud, expensive, hot and vibrate too much for my liking. Extra warranty is meaningless.

There is no way that is true. Are you just looking at sequential read or are you looking at random work loads and access times? Because platter density la
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In my experience, the Greens are NOT garbage! I've own a total of 14 Greens and still have twelve of them in use; only two have failed. The first one to fail was one of the first Greens that had the excessive head parking issue. The supposedly reputable computer repair chain that put it in my computer should have known better not to have used it as an OS drive. The second one, a 2TB, started throwing reallocation errors shortly before the warranty ran out so, technically, it didn't fail; it might have lasted several more years before it finally failed. Still, WD quickly replaced it (they cross shipped it so I had it in my hot little hands in only a couple of days) and it only cost me $6 and change for the return shipping (I used the same packaging WD used to send me the replacement drive).

Maybe WD is moving the Greens to the Blue line because of the persistence of the reputation they got from the early ones with the head parking issue. So what? The Blue line hadn't been going anywhere for some time. Then there are the people who use the Greens for the wrong purposes, such as in RAIDs, because they are too cheap to shell out the shekels to get the proper drives, then complain about them.

When I used to work at a repair shop I saw a lot of HP desktops that used the Green drives as the primary and only drive in the computer, god only knows why. Actually, I know why, to save a few bucks per computer.

So many of them came in failed. Perhaps they've improved the quality since then but I saw a lot of dead green drives, and the power savings really weren't there for the performance you gave up. They didn't save much power, weren't reliable, and had poor performance. That is why I believe their green drives are garbage, or at least the green drives I saw from the last four or so years.
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...When I used to work at a repair shop I saw a lot of HP desktops that used the Green drives as the primary and only drive in the computer, god only knows why. Actually, I know why, to save a few bucks per computer.

So many of them came in failed. Perhaps they've improved the quality since then but I saw a lot of dead green drives, and the power savings really weren't there for the performance you gave up. They didn't save much power, weren't reliable, and had poor performance. That is why I believe their green drives are garbage, or at least the green drives I saw from the last four or so years.

That was the problem. The Greens were never intended to be used as an OS drive. When used for the correct purpose—pure data storage that gets accessed only occasionally—such as for backup drives, they shine. For an OS drive and/or frequent data access, the Blacks are the appropriate choice.

It was bad enough that the Greens got off to a bad start with the excessive head parking issue (which got fixed quickly, btw), but then you have the cheap morons, many of whom should know better, who try to use them for the wrong purpose solely because they cost less then moan and groan when the drives start failing.
     
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Been running 3x 2/3 TB Greens for 3+ years 24/7 without a single problem and flawless smart. Fixed the headparking timer on all drives on day one. Very silent.

Never had a WD drive fail on me yet, had plenty of Seagate drives failing tho. And I've used 80% WD...
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...When I used to work at a repair shop I saw a lot of HP desktops that used the Green drives as the primary and only drive in the computer, god only knows why. Actually, I know why, to save a few bucks per computer.

So many of them came in failed. Perhaps they've improved the quality since then but I saw a lot of dead green drives, and the power savings really weren't there for the performance you gave up. They didn't save much power, weren't reliable, and had poor performance. That is why I believe their green drives are garbage, or at least the green drives I saw from the last four or so years.

That was the problem. The Greens were never intended to be used as an OS drive. When used for the correct purpose—pure data storage that gets accessed only occasionally—such as for backup drives, they shine. For an OS drive and/or frequent data access, the Blacks are the appropriate choice.

It was bad enough that the Greens got off to a bad start with the excessive head parking issue (which got fixed quickly, btw), but then you have the cheap morons, many of whom should know better, who try to use them for the wrong purpose solely because they cost less then moan and groan when the drives start failing.

 

The problem is that for the price, you can buy the Seagate/Samsung drive that battles it against the Blacks, which runs as quiet, uses a tiny bit more of power but TROUNCES it in performance.

 

And can be ran 24/7 without trouble.

 

Greens were mediocre drives with even worse pricing.

   
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I just checked WD's site, when did they start offering SSHD?
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I just checked WD's site, when did they start offering SSHD?

Quite a while ago.
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...When I used to work at a repair shop I saw a lot of HP desktops that used the Green drives as the primary and only drive in the computer, god only knows why. Actually, I know why, to save a few bucks per computer.


So many of them came in failed. Perhaps they've improved the quality since then but I saw a lot of dead green drives, and the power savings really weren't there for the performance you gave up. They didn't save much power, weren't reliable, and had poor performance. That is why I believe their green drives are garbage, or at least the green drives I saw from the last four or so years.


That was the problem. The Greens were never intended to be used as an OS drive. When used for the correct purpose—pure data storage that gets accessed only occasionally—such as for backup drives, they shine. For an OS drive and/or frequent data access, the Blacks are the appropriate choice.


It was bad enough that the Greens got off to a bad start with the excessive head parking issue (which got fixed quickly, btw), but then you have the cheap morons, many of whom should know better, who try to use them for the wrong purpose solely because they cost less then moan and groan when the drives start failing.

The problem is that for the price, you can buy the Seagate/Samsung drive that battles it against the Blacks, which runs as quiet, uses a tiny bit more of power but TROUNCES it in performance.

And can be ran 24/7 without trouble.

Greens were mediocre drives with even worse pricing.

Percentagewise, I've had far more problems with Seagate than with WD.
     
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There is no way that is true. Are you just looking at sequential read or are you looking at random work loads and access times? Because platter density la.

Considering I use them as pure storage drives, I do take bias towards the Seq read/write. But the Black is the slowest in all of the tests.

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