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I am building a new gaming computer to replace my aging overclocked phenom II 965 build with a 7950.

I got carried away with a sale at my favorite store so I already have: NZXT H440 case, a devils canyon 4690K, 250gb samsung 850 evo and corsair AX760i psu.

I will need a motherboard, cpu cooler, ram and a graphics card.

I was thinking of ASUS Z97 pro gamer, corsair 2x8gb vengeance pro 1866 CL9, noctua D14 and maybe a ASUS strix 980ti. Just checking this would be a balanced and compatible build before I order anything further. Or if anyone had any other suggestions for the components I don't yet have. I am not 100% brand loyal but I like ASUS, gigabyte... and sapphire (still possibly considering a R9 390x).

Will game 1080p initially and then move to a 1440p g-sync (if nvidia card) monitor later on. I will probably use the motherboard factory overclock function initially and then maybe try a more efficient mild to moderate overclock later. Any advice appreciated, thanks.
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It will definitely be compatible. Though I wouldn't rely on the auto overclock provided by the motherboard.

Also try to aim for low profile ram as there may be some ram clearance issues. If I can remember, they are called Corsair LPX Vengeance ram modules which would be suitable in this case.

Best way to go for overclocking is stay at stock then work on manual overclock when you feel like it.
Edited by benjamen50 - 9/22/15 at 12:54am
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post #3 of 13
why not just hold for 2016 gpu the 7950 is capable card for 1080
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That is a good build although there is a grain of truth in what Pontiac is saying too, but in that case you would have to wait until Q3 2016 when then new Pascal architecture comes out (GP100 is supposed to be a sight to behold).
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post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by benjamen50 View Post

Also try to aim for low profile ram as there may be some ram clearance issues. If I can remember, they are called Corsair LPX Vengeance ram modules which would be suitable in this case.

Best way to go for overclocking is stay at stock then work on manual overclock when you feel like it.
Thanks for the advice. Maybe I will look at the D15 or D15S instead. Noctua do say the vengeance pro is compatible with the D14 but I think it would be extremely close. I saw some builds on different motherboards where then fan touches the top of the ram.

I actually didn't specifically want an unlocked cpu (I knew I would be tempted to spend ages overclocking and testing it) but it was the same price as the regular 4690 so made sense. Maybe I can overclock it properly in the future when it starts to bottleneck the newer gpu's. I am hoping everything except the graphics card will last for many years.
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

why not just hold for 2016 gpu the 7950 is capable card for 1080
I can't use ultra settling on some games due to the lack of VRAM and it is slowing down quite a bit on heavily modified skyrim- lots of 2 and 4k textures, 100GB+ of mods. The next part is a bit philosophical, I have thought a lot about waiting but decided that we don't really know what will come or when and how good it is. They always promise huge improvements but most usually seem to be 5-15%. I can't imagine needing anything significantly better than a 980, 980ti or 390x for the next few years?
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That is a good build although there is a grain of truth in what Pontiac is saying too, but in that case you would have to wait until Q3 2016 when then new Pascal architecture comes out (GP100 is supposed to be a sight to behold).
Yep, that's a bit of a wait. My other option is get the R9 390x now. It will certainly have more VRAM than I could ever use (8GB) and I think it should have much higher frame rates than the 7950? I have read differing opinions on how much better it might be. The 7950 was quite a bit slower than the 7970 which was equivalent to the 280 which was slower than the 290 which is almost the same as the 390 and the 390x should be 7% better again.

My only hesitation is that it runs a bit hotter and requires a nuclear reactor for power (the AX760i should be perfectly adequate) but it is approx $700 in my currency vs $1350 for the 980 ti which is a huge difference and then I could always look at the new technology in a year or two. The ti is very expensive for a 28nm process that will likely get smaller with the newer gpu's. There is never a straight forward way to go with computer builds.
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I can't use ultra settling on some games due to the lack of VRAM and it is slowing down quite a bit on heavily modified skyrim- lots of 2 and 4k textures, 100GB+ of mods. The next part is a bit philosophical, I have thought a lot about waiting but decided that we don't really know what will come or when and how good it is. They always promise huge improvements but most usually seem to be 5-15%. I can't imagine needing anything significantly better than a 980, 980ti or 390x for the next few years?
keep the setting lower than you actually use and dont use too much mods on skyrim si the best thing you can do without spending more money to upgrade on the next gen, but if you want more vram you can get an r9 390 then..

and 5-15%? the 7970 was around 20 to 30% faster without drivers improvements over a HD 6970 with 33% nore SP on a 40nm and a different architecture

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My only hesitation is that it runs a bit hotter and requires a nuclear reactor for power (the AX760i should be perfectly adequate) .
the r9 390 uses 280w not much more than the GTX Titan kepler..
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Maybe you are right. I will see how the prices change and if there are any sales coming up. I have read a dozen threads "980ti or wait for pascal". They all seem to say if you want an upgrade now, do it since pascal release is unknown and may be more than a year away OR if it's not a big rush then wait, and even if pascal isn't as good as promised hopefully the maxwell cards will have dropped significantly in price.
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Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
250GB 840 Evo, 250GB 850 Evo, 4TB WD Black, 1.5... NZXT Kraken X61 Windows 10 BenQ XL2730Z 
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Corsair AX760i NZXT H440 Blue Optical to Audioengine DAC, NAD amp, Wharfedale... 
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250GB 840 Evo, 250GB 850 Evo, 4TB WD Black, 1.5... NZXT Kraken X61 Windows 10 BenQ XL2730Z 
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Originally Posted by tw2 View Post

Maybe you are right. I will see how the prices change and if there are any sales coming up. I have read a dozen threads "980ti or wait for pascal". They all seem to say if you want an upgrade now, do it since pascal release is unknown and may be more than a year away OR if it's not a big rush then wait, and even if pascal isn't as good as promised hopefully the maxwell cards will have dropped significantly in price.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1574740/anand-fable-legends-dx12-benchmark-analysis

there is no point on getting a 980ti when it will be the worst value once you see the 2016 cards..
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1574740/anand-fable-legends-dx12-benchmark-analysis

there is no point on getting a 980ti when it will be the worst value once you see the 2016 cards..
Wow, looks like 390X or wait are the best options, would you agree?
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250GB 840 Evo, 250GB 850 Evo, 4TB WD Black, 1.5... NZXT Kraken X61 Windows 10 BenQ XL2730Z 
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Corsair AX760i NZXT H440 Blue Optical to Audioengine DAC, NAD amp, Wharfedale... 
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Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
250GB 840 Evo, 250GB 850 Evo, 4TB WD Black, 1.5... NZXT Kraken X61 Windows 10 BenQ XL2730Z 
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Corsair AX760i NZXT H440 Blue Optical to Audioengine DAC, NAD amp, Wharfedale... 
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Originally Posted by tw2 View Post

Wow, looks like 390X or wait are the best options, would you agree?
really an used r9 290/x is a good place holder it is the same gpu than the 390/x only it has less vram

and this is a results from a DX12 game
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