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No... Nvidia are putting laptop-caliber GM204 GPUs in desktop 980s. When GM200 (the real desktop heavyweight) finds its way, uncompromised (including full OC range), into a laptop; that's impressive. They've been doing full Gxxx4 chips in laptops since at least Fermi (580M), though; so whatever.

Does this marketing really work on people?

This guy already ended this thread on the first page. It still makes me laugh that people think the GTX 680 & 980 were high-end GPUs. Anyone whose kept up on GPU releases over the last 10 years could have easily called Nvidia's bluff. They can call a 100 watt card with a single 6-pin connector the next Titan 2 and sell it for a $2000 price tag if they wanted. Doesn't mean it's actually a high-end GPU just because AMD can't compete with it.

Nvidia isn't reinventing the wheel it's all smoke and mirrors that the sheeple are obviously gobbling up and even defending. The GTX 690 was deemed an "engineering breakthrough" by putting 2 high-end GPU's on 1 card without a major downclock. Wrong. It's 2 mid-range GPU's so obviously wasn't that hard. Now another enginnering marvel by putting a "high end GTX 980 gpu" in a laptop. Wrong. It's a mid-end GPU which is the same as a high-end mobile GPU. And if you think I'm an AMD fanboy, then look at my signature.
Edited by Seyumi - 9/27/15 at 4:27am
post #52 of 55
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Originally Posted by Serandur View Post

No... Nvidia are putting laptop-caliber GM204 GPUs in desktop 980s. When GM200 (the real desktop heavyweight) finds its way, uncompromised (including full OC range), into a laptop; that's impressive. They've been doing full Gxxx4 chips in laptops since at least Fermi (580M), though; so whatever.

Does this marketing really work on people?

When was the last time you saw a 165W GPU in a notebook? They have all been reduced to 100W through downvolting and clock reduction before.
This chip however runs on full throttle in everything, and they made a new MXM board that is larger than mobile MXM boards to fit more power circuitry to allow higher clocks and overclocking.
Plus Clevo, a notebook manufacturer, is using a 200W GTX 980 design in their notebooks...
It runs higher clocks than GTX 980...

This is a normal 100W heatsink with heatpipes (1 of them) that is connected to a GPU.



This is the 200W heatsink that Clevo will use for the GTX 980 to be able to remove the heat. You may also notice that its connected to not just 1 fan like the one above, but two fans




So this is pretty much a first time for notebooks. This should in theory make room to use bigger high end chips in the future for notebooks, or R9 Nano if AMD was just a little more proactive.
Edited by iLeakStuff - 9/27/15 at 4:41am
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

When was the last time you saw a 165W GPU in a notebook? They have all been reduced to 100W through downvolting and clock reduction before.
This chip however runs on full throttle in everything, and they made a new MXM board that is larger than mobile MXM boards to fit more power circuitry to allow higher clocks and overclocking.
Plus Clevo, a notebook manufacturer, is using a 200W GTX 980 design in their notebooks...
It runs higher clocks than GTX 980...

This is a normal 100W heatsink with heatpipes (1 of them) that is connected to a GPU.



This is the 200W heatsink that Clevo will use for the GTX 980 to be able to remove the heat. You may also notice that its connected to not just 1 fan like the one above, but two fans




So this is pretty much a first time for notebooks. This should in theory make room to use bigger high end chips in the future for notebooks, or R9 Nano if AMD was just a little more proactive.
I feel that if any company is going to make these full power GPU's work, it would be Clevo. I remember looking at getting a Eurocom/Clevo Panther for a while, but the costs are just crude.
But dude, look at some of the other computers Clevo (sold as Eurocom, Sager, and a few others). It's like a desktop packed into a laptop chassis.

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That "new" copper pipe looks identical to my old M570 ETU. Clevo is back (thankfully) and they're going to outdo everyone.
    
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As the owner of an MSI GT80 Titan I can tell you that its not easy...but 100% worth it
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