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The only reason that they're able to sell them at the price that they do is because people are dumb enough to shell out the insane prices that they're demanding. All to have that e-peen extension that goes with throwing money down the perpetual hole that is the PC hardware industry.
 
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post #32 of 87
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Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post

It is not about redesigning the architecture, the difference won't be this big. Its about the current stock of HBM that is available. AMD are barely able to deliver a good quantity of Fury X with HBM1, whats left for nVidia with HBM2, where AMD even had the 1st place in the orders of HBM, thus nVidia will have to wait their turn, till the AMD quota has been fulfilled.

You are incorrect on pretty much all of this.

  • AMD only had first rights to HBMv1, and not HBMv2.
  • Nvidia will be getting HBMv2 from SK Hynix and Samsung both, so they don't even care about AMD's HBMv1 issues.
    
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You are incorrect on pretty much all of this.

  • AMD only had first rights to HBMv1, and not HBMv2.
  • Nvidia will be getting HBMv2 from SK Hynix and Samsung both, so they don't even care about AMD's HBMv1 issues.
From what i meant, Hynix are busy making the HBMs for AMD, and nVidia will have to wait for their turn, since the order is still going.

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Originally Posted by jdstock76 View Post

Well where are the people saying that it would be Q4 2016 until Pascal? Huh ....

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Silence. Thought so.

I called this after the 980ti release. And I called the 980ti release after their testing samples went public.

You will see Pascal GPUs only on paper in Q1 2016. Consumer grade will come not earlier than midQ2. There is still lots of milk left in 980 Ti, they are going to milk it for however much they can before deciding to reek in more big cash. I expect consumer Pascal around Q3 mid - Q4 start 2016.
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The only reason that they're able to sell them at the price that they do is because people are dumb enough to shell out the insane prices that they're demanding. All to have that e-peen extension that goes with throwing money down the perpetual hole that is the PC hardware industry.

Kind of like laptops huh?
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Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post

From what i meant, Hynix are busy making the HBMs for AMD, and nVidia will have to wait for their turn, since the order is still going.

Samsung is producing HBMv2 as well, There also is the possibility that whatever held back HBMv1 production could have been resolved in time for HBMv2. In other words, HBMv2 should be more available, just from having two manufacturers producing it.

Often times in these situations a lot is garnered from the first launch, and processes are altered for subsequent technologies to overcome issues.

tl;dr: Nothing, as of right now, shows that AMD's supply issue of HBMv1 is going to impact Nvidia's ability to obtain HBMv2.
    
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Samsung is producing HBMv2 as well, There also is the possibility that whatever held back HBMv1 production could have been resolved in time for HBMv2. In other words, HBMv2 should be more available, just from having two manufacturers producing it.

Often times in these situations a lot is garnered from the first launch, and processes are altered for subsequent technologies to overcome issues.

tl;dr: Nothing, as of right now, shows that AMD's supply issue of HBMv1 is going to impact Nvidia's ability to obtain HBMv2.
Thanks for the clarification, this is an answer that was trying to get.
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I said it years ago, Pascal will be the card that makes me switch, and I am still on track with this. 2 in SLI and I will be golden nuggets.

Unless you were thinking of Volta, this statement is a lie considering Pascal was announced 18 months ago, so hardly years ago.

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Unless you were thinking of Volta, this statement is a lie considering Pascal was announced 18 months ago, so hardly years ago.

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I think anyone that jumps on Pascal can easily ride the two years to Volta, if not longer. The consoles are going to be a giant ball and chain around the PC world for a long time!
    
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I think anyone that jumps on Pascal can easily ride the two years to Volta, if not longer. The consoles are going to be been a giant ball and chain around the PC world for a long time!
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I think anyone that jumps on Pascal can easily ride the two years to Volta, if not longer. The consoles are going to be a giant ball and chain around the PC world for a long time!

I dont doubt that for one sec...

heck, people have been able to ride out Tahiti/Kepler for 4 years and counting...all thanks to 28nm stagnating
     
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