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Originally Posted by misoonigiri View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1569088/ycombinator-lenovo-using-rootkit-like-techniques-to-install-bloatware-on-clean-windows-installs
were the models among the affected ones listed there?

I don't know exactly what model, one of the latest T versions with broadwell.
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This is like all laptops, coming with their pre-installed software, just like phones.
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When I buy a new laptop, I always do a format and install a clean installation if Windows, because I don't want that bloated software I won't even use, problem solved.
    
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I have my own fleet of several dozen T440's and X240's and my own X250, and very few of them ever given me issues. My statement stands. I didn't say it out of blind fanboyism but due to my own experiences with them.

I must ask though, the HDD failures you mention, would you blame that on Lenovo, or the actual manufacturer of the hard drives (Seagate, WD, Hitachi, etc)?

really ? i despise the x240

most of the user in the company i work for holding the laptops on one edge of the case while lid is open.
X240 cant hold his own weight and bend resulting in damage to motherboards/sata connector or Ram slip out cussing BSODs random system hangs and laptop turn off in mid work for no reason.

horrible build quality

never had this issue with X220/X230
post #35 of 46
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Lenovo still makes better laptops than their competition.

Hate 'em if you like, but it won't somehow make HP, Dell, Acer and the other mainstream brands any better.

As far as I'm concerned, most people don't need laptops. Those who do, and aren't willing to shell out for boutique labels, Lenovo is one of the very few sensible choices (along with MSI and ASUS, to a lesser degree).

Most of their laptops are also really easy to maintain, open the back and you can replace parts and clean everything easily. Try that with an HP or Dell, it's like surgery and entirely unnecessary.
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Most of their laptops are also really easy to maintain, open the back and you can replace parts and clean everything easily. Try that with an HP or Dell, it's like surgery and entirely unnecessary.

used to be true not anymore

compare opening t440/x240 /x1 carbon/yoga

to hp 840/850
post #37 of 46
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Lenovo still makes better laptops than their competition.

Hate 'em if you like, but it won't somehow make HP, Dell, Acer and the other mainstream brands any better.

As far as I'm concerned, most people don't need laptops. Those who do, and aren't willing to shell out for boutique labels, Lenovo is one of the very few sensible choices (along with MSI and ASUS, to a lesser degree).

Most of their laptops are also really easy to maintain, open the back and you can replace parts and clean everything easily. Try that with an HP or Dell, it's like surgery and entirely unnecessary.

Found the person who has never worked on Dell computers in bulk. Latitude 6000-series and Optiplex in general are a dream to work with.

Latitude 6520 (Sandy):
http://www.dellsonly.com/images/e6520/e6250_base.jpg

Latitude 6530 (Ivy):
http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm__1080258_Kopie_05_dfbf7fdf82.jpg

Latitude 6540 (Haswell):
http://www.3dnews.ru/assets/external/illustrations/2013/07/17/652881/int_1.jpg

Optiplex 780 SFF:
http://active-it.internetdsl.pl/allegro/zdjecia/komputery/dell/dell_optiplex_780_sff/dell_optiplex_780_sff_inside.jpg

Optiplex 790 SFF (Sandy):
http://www.xdselectronics.ca/eBay_files/products/990sff/pics/pic_03.jpg

Optiplex 7010 SFF (Ivy):
http://files.tested.com/photos/2013/03/27/46439-dell-optiplex-7010-01.jpg

Optiplex 7020 SFF (Haswell):
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tsxJpG4IRBY/maxresdefault.jpg

Note for the Optiplex's that the CD and HDD (and front fan) are tool-less design, RAM is under the HDD. I can swap an Optiplex HDD in about 30 seconds as it is also on a tool-less drive sled, like most PC cases these days. And the side panel is a latch, not screws. None of it gets bad until you want to swap the motherboard, which is in there tight for a good reason.

And note for the Latitudes, the CD and HDD are hotswap (HDD with 2 screws) without opening it up.

Insperon and XPS are for plebs. When you buy a Dell, get the good stuff. You'll thank yourself later.
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Wasn't there an article about how Lenovo used a piece of hardware to override and install Spyware regardless of clean installs?
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there needs to be an option at stores where you can let the customer service do a full reinstall ont eh spot
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Just purchased my wife a refurbed ThinkPad, out goes the HDD and in went a 512Gb SSD with a fresh install of Windows 7 with no extra nonsense added. Unless the BIOS is a mess this is no big deal for folks like us.
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