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I have built my new PC, got my new desk designed, now I am looking for a monitor. I have really been looking at ultrawides. Specifically the X34 predator. Now I currently am using a old dell ultrasharp (no g-sync , 60Hz). Should I spend the time waiting for and the extra cash for the X34? Or should I just buy a different ultrawide now?

I guess what I am trying to ask is if G-sync and a higher refresh rate is really worth it seeing as I am currently using a monitor without either.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by MrMoonPie View Post

I have built my new PC, got my new desk designed, now I am looking for a monitor. I have really been looking at ultrawides. Specifically the X34 predator. Now I currently am using a old dell ultrasharp (no g-sync , 60Hz). Should I spend the time waiting for and the extra cash for the X34? Or should I just buy a different ultrawide now?

I guess what I am trying to ask is if G-sync and a higher refresh rate is really worth it seeing as I am currently using a monitor without either.

Thanks!

G-SYNC and high refresh rate are absolutely worth it for gaming. I recommend waiting for reviews of the Acer Predator Z35 to surface. It has a smaller resolution than the X34 but will have a contrast ratio that's at least 2.5x better, much deeper blacks, and no IPS glow which will be very problematic on a 34" IPS screen like the X34. Also the Z35 will have a refresh rate of 200 Hz, double that of the X34.

So the Z35 will have less pixel clarity, but much better perceived color depth due to the contrast, much better blacks (IPS glow ruins dark games), and it will be smoother due to the higher refresh rate. Also I believe the Z35 has ULMB unlike the X34.
 
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G-SYNC and high refresh rate are absolutely worth it for gaming. I recommend waiting for reviews of the Acer Predator Z35 to surface. It has a smaller resolution than the X34 but will have a contrast ratio that's at least 2.5x better, much deeper blacks, and no IPS glow which will be very problematic on a 34" IPS screen like the X34. Also the Z35 will have a refresh rate of 200 Hz, double that of the X34.

So the Z35 will have less pixel clarity, but much better perceived color depth due to the contrast, much better blacks (IPS glow ruins dark games), and it will be smoother due to the higher refresh rate. Also I believe the Z35 has ULMB unlike the X34.

Very cool! Any idea on the release date or price?
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Very cool! Any idea on the release date or price?

$1200 putting it in the same ballpark as the X34.
 
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$1200 putting it in the same ballpark as the X34.

Cool! I thought IPS panels were all the rage nowadays? Especially on ultrawides due to a crisper image at different angles? Is the VA panel inferior? I am not a professional gamer (I see counter strike linked to high refresh rates often). I enjoy very immersive beautiful games, so being able to see "player movement more accurately" is not as important to me as a nice picture.

Does that make sense?

I appreciate the help as well!
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Cool! I thought IPS panels were all the rage nowadays? Especially on ultrawides due to a crisper image at different angles? Is the VA panel inferior? I am not a professional gamer (I see counter strike linked to high refresh rates often). I enjoy very immersive beautiful games, so being able to see "player movement more accurately" is not as important to me as a nice picture.

Does that make sense?

I appreciate the help as well!

They are indeed all the rage but if only these people new better. I consider IPS to be inferior to VA, not the other way around. But like I said there are drawbacks to both. Response times are better on IPS (although this is negligible versus the best VA panels which of course aren't available in any computer monitor), viewing angles are better on IPS but can be very good on VA. But IPS glow limits IPS viewing angles; a black screen looks almost white when viewed at an angle! And IPS glow ruins games that have a very dark setting, since it can be visible head-on on an extremely dark screen. While playing the newly released SOMA on my Acer XB270HU I want to punch a hole through the monitor.

If the Z35 uses a respectable VA panel then it won't suffer from uniformity issues. Contrast and blacks are much better on VA, which are the biggest contributing factors to picture quality. IPS looks utterly washed out next to VA since VA contrast ratio is typically 2.5x - 3x better (but sometimes 5x better, however the Z35 won't be this good). TFTCentral will review the Z35 ASAP, which means December I assume.
 
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They are indeed all the rage but if only these people new better. I consider IPS to be inferior to VA, not the other way around. But like I said there are drawbacks to both. Response times are better on IPS (although this is negligible versus the best VA panels which of course aren't available in any computer monitor), viewing angles are better on IPS but can be very good on VA. But IPS glow limits IPS viewing angles; a black screen looks almost white when viewed at an angle! And IPS glow ruins games that have a very dark setting, since it can be visible head-on on an extremely dark screen. While playing the newly released SOMA on my Acer XB270HU I want to punch a hole through the monitor.

If the Z35 uses a respectable VA panel then it won't suffer from uniformity issues. Contrast and blacks are much better on VA, which are the biggest contributing factors to picture quality. IPS looks utterly washed out next to VA since VA contrast ratio is typically 2.5x - 3x better (but sometimes 5x better, however the Z35 won't be this good). TFTCentral will review the Z35 ASAP, which means December I assume.


Wow! Very informative! I really appreciate this! Thank you very much!
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