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Heya, I'm looking to get some input on the build I'm putting together. I've not been watching the hardware developments recently (this past year basically) and as such am not totally sure I'm on point with the parts I'm looking at.

Use: Gaming and Live Streaming (With possibly some video editing thrown in)

Budget: 2,500 EURO (I live in germany, probably will end up getting most parts through Amazon.de unless I can find a better store -_-)


I have been thinking about updating the parts list to this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (€372.44 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€101.95 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (€261.33 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€147.43 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€55.17 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€55.17 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID Video Card (€750.83)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€107.87 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€153.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse (€68.93 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €2074.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-26 01:43 CEST+0200

It comes in under €2200, but if I had to pick up another graphics card to get the performance I'm looking for I'd be open to adding another one. Might stretch my budget farther than I'd like but ultimately I think I can justify it.

Bouncing around on coolers. I have multiple 4x120 NZXT rads, but I'm not sure I want a computer large enough to house them since I want this thing to fit comfortably under my desk. I'd consider going with a water loop if I could get some input on how you guys think it should look though since I prefer WC builds and it's always more fun with more work!thumb.gif If I do go that route, I prefer to go with a fanless build since I hate fan noises though. We shall see I guess.

Anyways, I look forward to hearing what you guys think. smile.gif
Edited by Proziam - 9/25/15 at 4:44pm
post #2 of 20
I'm looking at similar build, still researching parts and pieces such as motherboard and memory. I'll be doing an NVMe drive for heavy IO performance.


For radiators, you might look at a remote installation with quick disconnects. Mine is fanless but I get airflow from the hvac return:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1249489/build-log-m10-camacho-tri-680-sli-radiator-in-hvac-return/40_20#post_17198805
http://www.overclock.net/t/1249489/build-log-m10-camacho-tri-680-sli-radiator-in-hvac-return/20_20#post_17170634
 
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Note that some 5820K CPU´s might have problems with 3000 MHz RAM and that you might need to bump the voltage to get them to run.
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post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by ChestySpankers View Post

I'm looking at similar build, still researching parts and pieces such as motherboard and memory. I'll be doing an NVMe drive for heavy IO performance.


For radiators, you might look at a remote installation with quick disconnects. Mine is fanless but I get airflow from the hvac return:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1249489/build-log-m10-camacho-tri-680-sli-radiator-in-hvac-return/40_20#post_17198805
http://www.overclock.net/t/1249489/build-log-m10-camacho-tri-680-sli-radiator-in-hvac-return/20_20#post_17170634

That's a sweet idea but I don't have a way to achieve that in my current place. The only real option I have is using high water volume and radiator surface area to get closer to ambient. A setup with the rads outside the case somewhere would be cool, just not sure where I could do that and have it not look out of place frown.gif


EDIT - How common is that issue with this CPU? If it's just a bit of voltage it shouldn't be too big a problem I suppose.
Edited by Proziam - 9/25/15 at 1:04pm
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I dont know beyond one of my friends had a ton of problems getting his RAM to run at their rated speed and he found out others have the same problem.
Skylake have a much easier time with RAM speeds beyond 3000 MHz.
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post #6 of 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

I dont know beyond one of my friends had a ton of problems getting his RAM to run at their rated speed and he found out others have the same problem.
Skylake have a much easier time with RAM speeds beyond 3000 MHz.

Hmm. What would you recommend changing to avoid this potential issue then? Or rather, would you recommend a change?
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by Proziam View Post

Hmm. What would you recommend changing to avoid this potential issue then?
Stick with 2666 or 2800 MHz and you might as well because Haswell-E is not as good as Skylake to use super fast RAM making 3000 MHz kinda pointless anyway.
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Skylake/980Ti SLI:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€397.84 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€92.73 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€149.65 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€134.21 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.63 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.63 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€685.85 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€685.85 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (€83.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€153.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2492.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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post #9 of 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Stick with 2666 or 2800 MHz and you might as well because Haswell-E is not as good as Skylake to use super fast RAM making 3000 MHz kinda pointless anyway.

Darn, I guess I should look into memory a bit more then. I didn't see anything about this problem when I was reading up mad.gif
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Originally Posted by p4inkill3r View Post

Skylake/980Ti SLI:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€397.84 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€92.73 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€149.65 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€134.21 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.63 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.63 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€685.85 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€685.85 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (€83.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€153.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €2492.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-25 22:18 CEST+0200

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the 6700k come in pretty far below the 5820k in terms of performance? What would be the advantage of going with the 6700k over the 5820k? ( Serious question, I really am behind the times )
Edited by Proziam - 9/25/15 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Proziam View Post

Darn, I guess I should look into memory a bit more then. I didn't see anything about this problem when I was reading up mad.gif
As said said you might thats not the same as saying you will have that problem.
I am not a CPU/RAM/Motherboard expert so i dont know about it, i just know my friend had that problem and i could hear the cursing all the way across the room when i was at his house.

At the end he gave up sent the RAM back and got a 2666 MHz kit which worked right away.
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LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone EMP Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
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Onkyo TX NR646  Dali Opticon Vokal x2 Dali Opticon 2 x2 Dali Opticon 1 
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