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There was a recent article showing movie and TV show piracy has dropped something like 30% in Australia since Netflix launched. What more proof do you need that streaming is the key? One of the most prolific pirating nations dropped its numbers by a lot just from a limited selection of shows being launched while the filter, our slow internet and having small caps for years did absolutely nothing.
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And in Bizarroland, RIAA thinks pirates switching to Netflix is money lost to them from "lost" Blu-ray sales...
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Boo-hoo! If it wasn't for Apple and iTunes, they'd still be only releasing music on CDs. Even with digital distribution, instead of reducing prices, they just increase profit margins from not making as many CDs.

The DMCA still needs to be repealed or reworked, imho.

As others have pointed out, with current technology, Music Studios are basically just marketers to get a band/ artist exposure and have very little in fostering talent.

Long before iTunes we had Napster. Napster ushered in a new era in which people could share the music they wanted and originally even Prince was supportive of it because it meant cutting out the leaches. Then he, on behest of his handlers, had to betray his own convictions and turned on music sharing.

A few years ago Rage Against The Machine released their new years single on Youtube and made millions off it. Artists don't need the industry, the industry needs them. However the industry is like Edison, who bought patents, claimed they were his and then went around beating people up who wouldn't pay royalties for things he never invented.
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Artists don't need the industry, the industry needs them. However the industry is like Edison, who bought patents, claimed they were his and then went around beating people up who wouldn't pay royalties for things he never invented.

This, exactly. Why have a middle man when he isn't needed in today's world? For my band, we give away our music online for free. The money comes in from merchandise and live shows. But, we far from depend on the band to keep alive and is much more dedicated hobby than it is a career.
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By that logic why would people have ever bothered to pay for Netflix? Netflix met their quality and pricing needs. Many a pirate has turned Netflix because it works for them.
You are right that some will always get it for free if possible. Some have no choice (but to abstain which they will not), others don't think it's something they should pay for (because they don't understand that many, many people doing this ACTUALLY makes a difference).

You must admit though, right now there is a gap. A HUGE gap in the system, that people like me fall through. I am not impressed with Netflix's bit rate, I am especially UNimpressed with their players, and I absolutely abhor having to stream! I paid for it damnit, give it to me! Get it out of your blasted player and put it on my desktop in an MKV.
I want to go to a website, search, pick the highest quality available and download it.
If I decide I don't want to pay your subscription anymore, I've still already bought content from you. That subscription was an all access pass, just like buying each one individually would be a single access pass. Digital or physical doesn't matter. It's the same movie that you paid for. You wouldn't expect a physical Blu-ray you bought at the store not to be under your control would you? Like suddenly someone knocks at the door and says, "Hey! You haven't paid your Blu-ray access tax, hand it over! This copy no longer belongs to you!" Hahahaha Of course not. That's insane and impractical. The reason it's done digitally is simply because it is practical. They can do it, so they do. When you quit your "subscription" (all access pass) everything you bought disappears. Magazines don't disappear when you quit your subscription. Neither should movies! Some people like to collect or rewatch or save them for later.

Seriously, they can make this, they just don't want to. Many, many ragtag groups of techies all over the world have done something similar with public and private torrent sites. Why can't an official site be launched that officially sells the content in this way? Wouldn't that literally be the solution? Everybody that's going ever going to pay, will pay. Those who never will, never will. That is maximum profit. No sales are being lost because they would have never been made. It's digital. Unlike physical media digital media has no "breakage". There is no way to stop all the freeloaders, but a large portion of them can be enticed.

thumb.gif Maybe in 20 years.

Perfectly stated. I feel the same way. If I bought it, I own it. I'm not interested in leasing or renting video or music. That is the reason I don't checkout books at the library (which is free). When I find a book that I'm interested in, I buy it and keep it to enjoy on my terms.
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This, exactly. Why have a middle man when he isn't needed in today's world? For my band, we give away our music online for free. The money comes in from merchandise and live shows. But, we far from depend on the band to keep alive and is much more dedicated hobby than it is a career.

Most 'artists' aren't artists and have no reason to exist. Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, The Spice Girls, Justin Beaver, Eminem, Dr. Dre, etc. add nothing to music, they advance nothing, create nothing. They are entertainers who got their name and fame due to advertising and aggrandising by the industry. If the industry hadn't paid to put their 'music' on the radio and TV nobody would care about Lady Gaga showing her naked body on stage or Dr. Dre and Eminem going around swearing in their video's all the time. And nobody would tolerate that metrosexual thing called Justin Beaver going around doing the ridiculous things it does (when is that going to prison by the way?).

There was a time when musicians were truly musicians. They played instruments and knew how to write songs, now they fall over themselves as to how provocative they can be with their music. Even the Beatles (whom I despise) were better than this and I'd rather have their music than gangster rap, which has done great cultural damage. People in the UK had finally had enough of Oasis and those two low life brothers, which is the main reason why Oasis finally and thankfully came to an end. No damage control by the music industry could save them from their own antics.
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RIAA is just like a Union IMO. Long ago, they actually served a good and noble purpose. Anymore, they are only about lining their own pockets.

Piracy is bad because it denies the artist money, but RIAA really doesn't care about the artist, they care about making money and the recording companies, who make MOST of the money.

I grew up with a long time friend of mine who knows all too well just how little money the artist makes compared to record companies. I know him as John Knoll, you know him as John Christ, of the ban Danzig. Before he got out of the industry, he talked to major artists such as Ted Nugent and others, and they told him the same story. They get paid relatively little, and the recording companies make serious bank.

Personally, I think it is long past time for the recording industry and RIAA to "step off" and the whole model change. I personally will raise my glass and toast to the death of RIAA.

I say musicians step up like comedians are starting to and take full advantage of the internet and what it provides as a business medium.
you see more and more comedians handling production of their specials/recording entirely on their own and then moving into a digital distribution medium where all the money goes back to them and they cut out any and all other entities that would be parasitic.
and, most comedians manage to do this while practically living on the road, something that musicians don't feel they have to do anymore.
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Most 'artists' aren't artists and have no reason to exist. Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, The Spice Girls, Justin Beaver, Eminem, Dr. Dre, etc. add nothing to music, they advance nothing, create nothing. They are entertainers who got their name and fame due to advertising and aggrandising by the industry. If the industry hadn't paid to put their 'music' on the radio and TV nobody would care about Lady Gaga showing her naked body on stage or Dr. Dre and Eminem going around swearing in their video's all the time. And nobody would tolerate that metrosexual thing called Justin Beaver going around doing the ridiculous things it does (when is that going to prison by the way?).

There was a time when musicians were truly musicians. They played instruments and knew how to write songs, now they fall over themselves as to how provocative they can be with their music. Even the Beatles (whom I despise) were better than this and I'd rather have their music than gangster rap, which has done great cultural damage. People in the UK had finally had enough of Oasis and those two low life brothers, which is the main reason why Oasis finally and thankfully came to an end. No damage control by the music industry could save them from their own antics.

to be fair, lady gaga, or Stefani germanotta used to be a concert pianist from what I understand. so she is musically talented, she has just embraced the pop culture way of making bank.
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You can't fight digital music piracy, and most part because of greedy record lables!

IMO, Id like to see most music artist go self publishing, run a digital store front, and sell whole albums or collections at a fair cost. The artist gets 99.99% of the sold content at 1% cost for their store front. Id bet, you'd sell 200-500% more content? And using ur pirated music to help sell you content...
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And in Bizarroland, RIAA thinks pirates switching to Netflix is money lost to them from "lost" Blu-ray sales...

LOL

So true. Their greed is almost too much to even comprehend.
 
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LOL

So true. Their greed is almost too much to even comprehend.

They use crazy people logic with a huge dose of groupthink. Frankly, they represent a lot of what's wrong with humanity on a fundamental level.
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