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Sorry I missed your point. I thought you were comparing the 1075Mhz boost of the TitanX (that the dual card was rumored by some to be based on) to that of the 980Ti. Some people see the 1075 boost and assume that the card is somehow hobbled vs the 980Ti, I thought that was what you were implying. I'd be surprised if the dual card only boosts to 1100, but it's all academic to me, anyway.

These cards having 2 gpu's on one PCB have always been very limited. Lets say they base it off 980Ti's which have a reference base clock of 1000mhz. I wouldn't be at all surprised if these clocks on a dual gpu with limited cooling would be in the range of 800-850mhz. My original claim of 1100mhz boost would be a 250-300mhz increase. That may even be a stretch on this card. Again we are talking about a single card with two Gm200 gpu's. I've owned several dual-gpu's (6990/7990/690) they all had little to no headroom past factory clocks.
 
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I guess it depends on the cooling system. There is plenty of cooling headroom on a 980ti but highly doubtful that the reference cooler could handle two gpu's even with some added length to the card and cooler. Non reference systems could get the job done with some room to overclock though.... might be a bit noisy though.
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Dual GM200 most certainly need a new cooler. GTX 980Ti reference cooler is old and outdated and is poor compared to AIBs various coolers

It should have AIO for best cooling and noise ratio. Doubt it would cost much more for those that make the cards than the current cards on the market with 3 fans
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Has Nvidia ever done a reference card with AIO on it? This late in the game they should just let the AIB's go to town with it and forget about having a reference model.
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Has Nvidia ever done a reference card with AIO on it? This late in the game they should just let the AIB's go to town with it and forget about having a reference model.

With Fury X and several 980Ti`s using AIO with great success, they must have noticed.
I also hope that they let AIBs make their own versions on it, but Im sceptical, due to the premium quality and price of the card, I think Nvidia will lock it down to a reference design
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Maybe if they lock it down to reference it will be a good excuse for them to really update the reference cooler to something more substantial. I'm not getting one anyways so it really doesn't matter to me but I am fairly certain that the AMD Fury X2 or whatever will have an AIO and the crossfire scaling performance is already quite good (when its supported) so Nvidia can't get away with gimping the new dual gpu card much if they want to sit on top with it.
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Maybe if they lock it down to reference it will be a good excuse for them to really update the reference cooler to something more substantial. I'm not getting one anyways so it really doesn't matter to me but I am fairly certain that the AMD Fury X2 or whatever will have an AIO and the crossfire scaling performance is already quite good (when its supported) so Nvidia can't get away with gimping the new dual gpu card much if they want to sit on top with it.
I don't think that they can gimp it at all. Dual fury matches 980ti Sli and dual fury x beats Titan x Sli. Nvidia need to pull something really great off to get back the performance king (Titan Z doesn't count because it was stupidly priced.)
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I don't think that they can gimp it at all. Dual fury matches 980ti Sli and dual fury x beats Titan x Sli. Nvidia need to pull something really great off to get back the performance king (Titan Z doesn't count because it was stupidly priced.)

Source? At stock clocks FuryX xfire matches 980ti Sli in most benches. Problem Gm200 overclocks and boost like a beast. Where FuryX is pretty much tapped out. Both oc'd 980ti Sli will easily smoke FuryX xfire by 15-20 fps. Ti's are only slower at stock clocks compared to TitanX. The Ti having aftermarket cards easily surpasses TitanX in performance when overclocked.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/13.html
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You will most likely not get the over clocking headroom on a dual chip card like you have on two cards in SLI though. Overclocked results of a 980ti SLI setup may not apply to this card. All of that may not matter if you put it under water though.
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Source? At stock clocks FuryX xfire matches 980ti Sli in most benches. Problem Gm200 overclocks and boost like a beast. Where FuryX is pretty much tapped out. Both oc'd 980ti Sli will easily smoke FuryX xfire by 15-20 fps. Ti's are only slower at stock clocks compared to TitanX. The Ti having aftermarket cards easily surpasses TitanX in performance when overclocked.

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/13.html

Where are you getting that nonsense from about the Ti easily surpassing the Titan-X?

If you look at the last page there, they show that they were only able to get an extra 87 mhz on their core clock.

Simply put, the Lightning out the box is already overclocked as far as it will go. The Titan-X is just way more modestly clocked out the box leaving 200 mhz of headroom.

Put them on equal cooling footing (like full cover water block for both) and the T-X will win by a large margin. (for context my Titan-X will hit 1550 under water and it's not a silicone lottery winner or anything)
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