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You have the fact that the R9 295X2 isn't commercially available anymore (probably to get people to buy the Fury X instead) and that GM204 in SLI will use quite a bit less power. Yeah I know the savings on electricity is trivial but a dual GM204 card could use an air cooler like the 690 or the Titan Z but the 295X2 had to use a water cooling loop or use a massive air cooler.

Anyway, this is going to be tough to pull off. NVIDIA is going to have to fit two 600mm2 dies onto a PCB that's at max 13 inches along. Then, you have to fit twenty four memory modules and the massive VRM that these cards would require. Then you must have an adequate vapor chamber air cooler like the Titan Z which took up three(!!) slots or use a system sort of like the 295X2, but I doubt it because NVIDIA has never went with a water cooling setup as a reference design.

Ooh the 4kg slug of metal that actually can be used as weapon biggrin.gif
Technically it is still in circulation, but those are probably the last 295x2 being sold as new. In eBay you can get a 295x2 for 580$.... If i could, i would buy one. It would save me the need to turn on the electric radiator during winter as well (not like i need it now with the laptop and the desktop in 1 room going both like jet engines).
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This was posted on Redditch.

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post #43 of 395
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

GTX 990 based on Tesla M60 to beat AMD to the market with a dual card.

Why GM204 would be enough:
They don`t need to beat Fury X2, just make one with similar performance.
Since Fury X2 have 2x8 power pin, it will probably perform like 2xNano. Nano perfom like a Fury (non X). And GTX 980 is very close to a Fury.
So GTX 990 with 2 x GTX 980 with higher clocks would perform like a Fury X.

AMD will probably have to sell it above $999 while Nvidia could easily sell it for $999 due to much smaller silicon and GDDR5. While AMD have two huge dies plus 8 stacks of expensive HBM

The 295X2 only had two 8 pins but didn't perform like two 290s. It all depends on whether AMD is willing to go out of spec for raw performance again.
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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

Source: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-conducted-secret-meeting-press-york-city/

So what is this secret graphics card exactly, WCCF manages to not reveal any more information at this time

Well luckily Linus @ LinusTechTips slips and more than likely discloses that this graphics card revealed at this secret meeting is a Dual GPU (GTX 690 2015 edition):

https://youtu.be/AJkrpKsSRBM?t=4420

This is gathered from the fact that the meeting took place last week, and surely LinusMediaGroup would have been invited. Here in this video Linus begins to talk about "Dual GPU" problems that he has encountered recently then hesitates and begins to exclaim to his co-host Luke, not to give away any information repeatedly. Which might mean reviewers have the cards already, and a surprise launch is coming soon.

So the real question is, is this Dual GM204 (Dual GTX 980's) or Dual GM200-310 (Dual GTX 980 Ti's).

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Now it would seem most likely for this card to be Dual GM204 GPUs considering this is exactly what the Tesla M60 is:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/9574/nvidia-announces-grid-20-tesla-m60-m6-grid-cards

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
However the question mark comes when you think about the fact that AMD is launching a Dual Fury X card, and obviously a Dual GTX 980 card will not compete directly with a dual Fury X card. Unless of course NVIDIA knows that this dual Fury X card is closer in actuality to a dual Nano card (clock speed and TDP limitations with putting two full-fledged Fiji cores on one PCB). Wherein then, this means that a Dual GTX 980 card could become very competitive with that card. However, if it is actually two full-fledged Fiji cores (without restrictions). It would make more sense for a Dual GM200-310 card to be pitted against a Dual Fury X card aka. the Fury X2. However, after the Titan-Z is it likely for NVIDIA to ever try to do something along those lines again?

Apparently WCCF Tech is certain that this card shown at the secret meeting is a Dual GM200:
Source 2: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-launching-dual-gpu-flagship-graphics/

He says you can't turn crossfire off on a dual gpu... anything older than a 295x2 can be. Secondly why would you on a 295x2? It's using a new bridge link interface that makes the performance seamless. Plus in crossfire if a game doesn't use it, well it doesn't use it.
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This was posted on Redditch.


So what you're telling me is that AMD cornered the ITX niche market and nVidia is targeting the XXL niche market.
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So what you're telling me is that AMD cornered the ITX niche market and nVidia is targeting the XXL niche market.

I'm definitely for the XXL graphics card market. More 8+8+6 or 8+8+8+8 power pin cards please wink.gif

Asus DCIII Strix cards is probably the most best looking big card right now redface.gif
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Did someone say 8+8+8+8 pin? Well look no further because PowerColor Devil 13 has you covered! (yes it's an air-cooled 295X2)

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295X2 where going for like $6XX. Hard to get away with GM204 especially with DX12.

Lets be honest here:
The fact that 295x2 was launched at $1500 means AMD either sold it later at a ridiculous low profit or at loss when it was sold at $650-700. People here thinks that the card was a huge success but in reality the price was dumped in order to try and stop GTX Titan X from becoming a success. But Titan X still sold like crazy, for $350 more, without expensive watercooling and much less silicon and vrms etc.
Now you tell me which of the two companies that was successful....Nvidia by a mile. Thats the difference of a successful company and one laying in the gutter.

So the praise of 295X2 is extremely misguided. It is undoubtly an amazing value for customers, but for AMD it was hugely unsuccesful and for that I sort of understands AMDs will of no longer selling cards like a charity organization like so many greedy AMD "fans" saw them like. Its a little untasteful actually. Many fans "support" AMD but only became fans because of the value.
Edited by iLeakStuff - 9/27/15 at 11:27pm
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That's what I was thinking. Once upon a time flagships were $500. I understand inflation happens. I understand some hardware can be more expensive, they're packing more in too. Things change. Unfortunately what ACTUALLY changed was not so much that stuff, but Nvidia's profit margins! Greeeeeeed!

Amd was the one that increased the market years ago with the 7970 release when nvidia had no answer at the time, so amd priced the hell out of it. Nvidia could have priced the 980ti even higher and it would still have sold as well, so that is why people are saying it has been priced rather well. Expect gpu's to go up year by year though, and not just on nvidias dime.

But you know, dont let me get in the way of the usual "nvidia are greedy and amd care about us and our wallets, they dont even like money!!!".
Edited by sugalumps - 9/28/15 at 12:15am
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If it's a dual 980 Ti card I'd expect ~$1500 MSRP.
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