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Edit: Just wanted to add along with the rest that this isn't ALWAYS the case. Sometimes, for days, the PC will boot just fine, no issues. These boot issues appear to be random...I'll boot it up one morning and bam...problems. What's odd too is how long it'll last. Sometimes after a couple reboots the problem will go away. Other times I'll have to reboot several times (we're talking 15x or more) before I finally get into Windows.

So since building my X99 system I've constantly had boot issues. I either freeze on the post screen, freeze at Windows booting, will have my PC just shut down or reboot while booting, etc.

I've changed or done the following:

New motherboards.
New RAM (multiple kits) with all different types of settings, XMP, voltages, etc.
Different and/or no hard drives and SATA cables.
Different GPU's.
Different BIOS and BIOS settings.
Stock and overclocked settings.

Basically I've changed everything out except for the power supply at this point. Same issues.

So despite the PC working fine once I FINALLY get it into Windows is it possible my problem is the CPU? I know these X99 CPU's have the memory controller and what not built in so could that be the issue?

Could this possibly be the first bad CPU I've ever had in the 15 years of PC building?
Edited by AndroidVageta - 9/28/15 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by AndroidVageta View Post

So since building my X99 system I've constantly had boot issues. I either freeze on the post screen, freeze at Windows booting, will have my PC just shut down or reboot while booting, etc.

I've changed or done the following:

New motherboards.
New RAM (multiple kits) with all different types of settings, XMP, voltages, etc.
Different and/or no hard drives and SATA cables.
Different GPU's.
Different BIOS and BIOS settings.
Stock and overclocked settings.

Basically I've changed everything out except for the power supply at this point. Same issues.

So despite the PC working fine once I FINALLY get it into Windows is it possible my problem is the CPU? I know these X99 CPU's have the memory controller and what not built in so could that be the issue?

Could this possibly be the first bad CPU I've ever had in the 15 years of PC building?

Power supplies can do some goody stuff even with new hardware. What power supply are you running? make and model if you would please.

EDIT: where it is possible that you have a bad cpu, i would point fingers at the PSU first, especially if you re-used it from a previous build. Just for future planning I am tagging more knowledgeable people on the PSU topic. @twocables @shilka
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I'd try reseating the CPU, checking for any damaged pads/pins, or anything on the bottom of the CPU.

If possible, I'd also try a different PSU.

Assuming that doesn't clear things up it could well be a bad uncore/IMC causing memory training errors and I'd RMA the part.
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Power supplies can do some goody stuff even with new hardware. What power supply are you running? make and model if you would please.

I'm using an OCZ 1000 watt Z Series. Never have had any issues with it in the past at all. Using a single 290X right now as well so power draw certainly shouldn't be an issue.

Only thing I can think of, especially since it's boot issues, would be the CPU.
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I'd try reseating the CPU, checking for any damaged pads/pins, or anything on the bottom of the CPU.

If possible, I'd also try a different PSU.

Assuming that doesn't clear things up it could well be a bad uncore/IMC causing memory training errors and I'd RMA the part.

Definitely not a seating issue or anything since I've already tried that and even have tried different motherboards.

Could be a bad power supply but, I don't know, I just doubt it for some reason. Seems unlikely given the activity.
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To rule out all else I would try changing the PSU.
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To rule out all else I would try changing the PSU.

I might have to give it a go, just don't have the money right now for a decent replacement honestly.
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Definitely not a seating issue or anything since I've already tried that and even have tried different motherboards.

Could be a bad power supply but, I don't know, I just doubt it for some reason. Seems unlikely given the activity.

Memory problems will result in training errors and failure to boot more easily than many stress tests can find them.

Memory VRMs are generally supplied by the +5v rail on this platform. A shoddy +5v rail can easily impact memory stability before being bad enough to register problems in other components.
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I might have to give it a go, just don't have the money right now for a decent replacement honestly.

Do you have a second system that has a serviceable PSU? Or can you borrow one for a quick test?

Doesn't need to be able to handle your fully loaded system/GPU, just needs to be powerful enough to rule out PSU issues that could cause the problems you are experiencing.
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I'm using an OCZ 1000 watt Z Series. Never have had any issues with it in the past at all. Using a single 290X right now as well so power draw certainly shouldn't be an issue.

Only thing I can think of, especially since it's boot issues, would be the CPU.

 

If it is the PSU for some reason, then what if the replacement would only cost no more than maybe $80-$90 (and less after a mail-in rebate)?

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Memory problems will result in training errors and failure to boot more easily than many stress tests can find them.

Memory VRMs are generally supplied by the +5v rail on this platform. A shoddy +5v rail can easily impact memory stability before being bad enough to register problems in other components.
Do you have a second system that has a serviceable PSU? Or can you borrow one for a quick test?

Doesn't need to be able to handle your fully loaded system/GPU, just needs to be powerful enough to rule out PSU issues that could cause the problems you are experiencing.

No spare PSU right now unfortunately.

I have updated the OP with an edit if you wouldn't mind reading that and giving me your thoughts?
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