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Originally Posted by Gorea View Post

Keep living in your delusional fantasy world where things are only true if authority says so. Us "conspiracy nuts" knew this stuff decades ago.

Faceless corporations are not an "authority".

Personally I would rather have the truth from the horses mouth rather than from a random person (AKA "conspiracy nut"). To a point.

Think about this for a moment: you cannot take everything you read at face value these days, especially online, because anyone can come up with whatever scenario suits their worldview best.
Edited by iAmCodeMonkey - 9/29/15 at 11:39pm
post #102 of 186
I am inclined to think that what they are saying is the truth. Honestly, time is money, and the less random crap they have to sift through in order to find what they are looking for (ways to improve the OS stability and feature-sets) the better. I'm sure Dale from IT doesn't give a crap about the hemorrhoid cream, or adult diapers you ordered for your "grandpa" off of Amazon last Thursday.

What I do find funny, though, is the hypocrisy of many people whom are very concerned about issues like these. They demand transparency of these companies, and yet demand privacy for themselves.
Edited by Ultracarpet - 9/29/15 at 11:34pm
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Hilarious that the OP calls it a "dosage of reality". Some people are so gullible. The evidence has been presented more than enough. You wouldn't have programs like "Anti-Beacon 10" coming out if there weren't any evidence... hilarious.

Agreed.
post #104 of 186
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Originally Posted by PiOfPie View Post

You're thinking of the option to turn off Windows Defender. The driver option switch doesn't work at all.

In my experience with TP it does stop driver downloads, but only unitl the setting resets a short while later (meaning after an automatic update).
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There is no such thing as "anonymous device ID". If the device has an ID, it can be identified. Yet the anonymous can not be identified, unless they reveal their identity purposely. It would be truly anonymous if the data would without any ID.
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post #106 of 186
It all comes down to choice.

Microsoft made a glaring error by removing user choice. We should have the option and freedom to either disable features or adjust their settings with more granular options like in previous Windows versions.

The removal of these abilities while perhsps in the best interest of Microsoft simply eroded at consumer trust and choice, neither of which will earn you faith points.

I feel Telemetry data should have a Disabled option, especially if you have purchased the OS you should have the choice to share data or not, the granular options are nice, but still lack "Disabled"

I use Windows 10 and love it but the above should be altered IMHO.
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Telemetry data has legitimate uses. It is really useful for monitoring user experience. If people complain about performance problems then you can see what is actually performing poorly, or better yet address it before complaints are raised. However, it should always be optional. I would disable telemetry if given the option, but in doing so I would have to remove any expectation that problems I have will be addressed without me reporting them myself with lots of details. I chose to downgrade instead because it's much easier.
    
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I am sure the NSA has built back doors into every Linux distro available. wink.gif

This would prove very difficult since the source is completely open. As for Windows, it's propriety code that even Microsoft employees struggle to sift through, so keeping your malicious code a secret would be much easier.
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This would prove very difficult since the source is completely open. As for Windows, it's propriety code that even Microsoft employees struggle to sift through, so keeping your malicious code a secret would be much easier.

What ever fits your agenda I guess? You are wrong. Gov. can ask access to MS source codes all the time.

Keep fighting the good fight! bruce.gif

EDIT: Same goes for OEMs.
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What ever fits your agenda I guess? You are wrong. Gov. can ask access to MS source codes all the time.

Keep fighting the good fight! bruce.gif

What are you on about? We're comparing the difficulty of implementing a backdoor to an OS, yeah?
If your code is propriety, it's massively harder to find malicious code. Even if the government had complete access to the entire source code (which MS would never allow), what would they look for? Meaning if an organisation like the NSA were to slip in code, there'd be very few people who'd be able to know.

If the source code is readable and completely open for the public to access, it would prove very difficult to slip code past reviewers, other savvy users and developers; what you see is what gets compiled.

While when you get your copy of Windows, you only get the binary release of the OS and all its applications, and you aren't able to view the whole thing. Even as a Windows developer, you only have source code access to specific parts of the OS.
Edited by RipperLord - 9/30/15 at 5:40am
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