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post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

in terms of improved cooling performance, the number 1 thing that will help you is delidding the chip and put some coolab ultra under the IHS. delidding is risky and voids warranty so that's a decision you have to make for yourself.

after that, using you can use HUGE latest gen coolers to gain a few C of performance, but nothing near what you will get from delidding. delidding will likely yield better temps then even going full custom liquid cooling.

acoustics wise, i feel a 1300RPM fan that came with the venomous is fairly hard to improve upon. can you find a quieter fan? yes. but is it worth it when you can barely hear the stock fan over other noises in the system in the 1st place? not really. that fan is quieter then most water pumps in full custom liquid rigs.

if you REALLY want to just spend $.. i would recommend you wait for ehume to publish his test results for the scythe ninja4. rumor has it that it does as well as most top coolers on the market today and it's relatively cheap for the performance it delivers. it might take the crown on the high performance value cooler from the macho biggrin.gif

Given that all my attempts at hardware modding haven't turned out well, I think I'll avoid lidding, lapping and so on.

I will keep my eye out for the test results of the scythe ninja4 then, if it;s a good all rounder and a step up from what I have I'll probably get one. In a way, yeah I guess you'd say I'm just looking to squeeze a bit more out of things and spend some money.
post #12 of 14
yah it's a good idea to wait for ehume's results on the ninja 4. here's some comments he made about the cooler

http://www.overclock.net/t/1574995/scythe-ninja-4

for him to claim that the ninja 4 perform better then a D15... that's gotta be some damn interesting results smile.gif i myself can't wait to see his findings and may end up picking up a ninja 4 just to test out myself.

you can see some of its numbers here

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1462-page6.html
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/5558-scythe-ninja-4-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5

and it's already showing some very strong numbers, even compared to a top twin tower design such as the silver arrow, which makes its price of $50 very attractive.

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556103448.html

it's definitely worth waiting to see more ninja 4 test results before you spend the $
post #13 of 14
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Ah, thanks. Sounds like I should just sort that header out to start with, and then decide if I need more or different case fans and such, and should put my spare noctuas in to boot. I think I just completely missed that it needed PSU power as I don't remember a connector or trying to connect it. Glad to see the venomous X holding it's own still.
There are at least two variants of the Phanteks PWM controlled fan hub. This is the newest I know of.


What fan is on your Venomous? Some had no fans, some had 2x 800rpm 120mm fans, some had 1x 1500rpm 120mm fan, some had plastic fan mounting shrouds, some had wire fan clips.

I am very wary of cooler reviews, especially those with long lists of cooler comparisons. They are sometimes not even done on same test system. At least as much a problem is they usually use room ambient air temp, not the actual air temp going into cooler. Even when bench testing the cooler intake air temp can vary, and when testing in a case it is extremely rare for cooler intake air temp to be the same as room. I have never built a system with cooler intake the same temp as room, and I spend a lot of time optimizing case airflow. 2-3c difference is about the best. 5c is good. 8-12c difference is common.

Using room ambient instead of cooler intake when testing in a case "to be real world use" is a crock! The only "real world" is the tester's system. Rarely do any of us have same system as tester. Changing fan speed or any components usually changes case airflow patterns which results is temperature changes.

Using room ambient for cooler testing is like looking at the thermometer in your bedroom to find out what the temperature is in your lounge where the fireplace is burning. .
post #14 of 14
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What fan is on your Venomous? Some had no fans, some had 2x 800rpm 120mm fans, some had 1x 1500rpm 120mm fan, some had plastic fan mounting shrouds, some had wire fan clips.

I have 2x Noctua NF-12 Pwm fans on there using the plastic style clips (I got the silent edition of venomous x), and it's quite decent - I have no idea where the original fans have got to. Thanks for the diagram, should know where to look now. I didn't realise benchmark comparisons could be so spotty, I'll have to beware of that.
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you can see some of its numbers here

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1462-page6.html
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/5558-scythe-ninja-4-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&start=5

and it's already showing some very strong numbers, even compared to a top twin tower design such as the silver arrow, which makes its price of $50 very attractive.

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556103448.html

it's definitely worth waiting to see more ninja 4 test results before you spend the $

Looking good. If he's right about it being better than a D15.. well, looks like a good choice for squeezing some numbers out, which would be good as my other fans may come down in speed a little, depending how things are looking once the PWM hub is hooked up properly.
Edited by etplayer - 10/1/15 at 3:35am
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