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looking for a upgrade over my evga 470... high budget. 980ti, furyx, or 970 sli

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been rocking my 980x and 470 since 2010... kinda figured its a good time to upgrade.

i already ordered a intel i7 6700K, 16gb ddr4 2666mhz gskill, and a asus maximus viii hero.

right now i'm still debating what video card to get.

I'm currently looking at these:
Sapphire Radeon R9 FURY X 4GB
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Hybrid
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 x2 in sli


from what i've gathered the 970 sli would be the fastest, and even two in sli would produce very little heat and draw little power. only downside is multi-gpu but it seems like nvidia has been on their game with sli support. outside of that its the 3.5gb vram controversy. i did think about 980 sli but my budget is $750 max.

the fury x and evga 980ti hybird i really like a lot since they come with a "hybird" AIO cooler. those AIO coolers seem to do a fantastic job at keeping them cool from the reviews i've seen they have been able to push the 980ti hybrid to 1.4ghz.

looking at reviews it seems like the fury x overclocked by ~100mhz can easily tie a stock 980ti but the 980ti can easily be overclocked by an extra ~100mhz - ~200mhz over stock.

i herd amd currently has the best vanilla dx12 support while nvidia has the best dx12.1 support. seeing how .1 releases rarely go used i kinda feel like amd's dx12 support is better, but really don't know much about it. its async or whatever?
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If i were you i would go amd, cause even 7000 series cards are running pretty well these days. And nvidia 700 series have shown low performance in recent titles.

You can go for 980ti cause it has 6gb vram, just to be future proof, cause i guess games will require well over 4gb soon.

Why not wait for some more time? Till more dx12 titles come out then you can decide may be? till then use your gtx 470?
Im pretty sure nvidia will drop maxwell cards performance when pascal comes out.

And yes stay away from 970 sli, cause vram will be an issue soon. Until directx 12 gives 2x3.5gb which i doubt.
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If i were you i would go amd, cause even 7000 series cards are running pretty well these days. And nvidia 700 series have shown low performance in recent titles.

You can go for 980ti cause it has 6gb vram, just to be future proof, cause i guess games will require well over 4gb soon.

Why not wait for some more time? Till more dx12 titles come out then you can decide may be? till then use your gtx 470?
Im pretty sure nvidia will drop maxwell cards performance when pascal comes out.

And yes stay away from 970 sli, cause vram will be an issue soon. Until directx 12 gives 2x3.5gb which i doubt.

I agree with this, Id go with a R9 295X2 if your in that price range.

And the problem with SLI is that if your a big gamer, a lot of games dont fully utilize it or utilize it at all. I ran 7950s in crossfire for quiet some time. Created an insane amount of heat and noise, and most games would not use them to full capacity because they have bad crossfire/sli support.

Id stick with one card, you honestly cant go wrong with either choice but I personally always go with the AMD cards. I've just had better experiences overall with them.
Edited by drazah - 10/1/15 at 8:35am
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Originally Posted by mutatedknutz View Post

If i were you i would go amd, cause even 7000 series cards are running pretty well these days. And nvidia 700 series have shown low performance in recent titles.

You can go for 980ti cause it has 6gb vram, just to be future proof, cause i guess games will require well over 4gb soon.

Why not wait for some more time? Till more dx12 titles come out then you can decide may be? till then use your gtx 470?
Im pretty sure nvidia will drop maxwell cards performance when pascal comes out.

And yes stay away from 970 sli, cause vram will be an issue soon. Until directx 12 gives 2x3.5gb which i doubt.

i can barely play new games these days at medium - low settings. i really want a new card. i've had it for five years and pascal still looks to be another year away. that and i also ordered a new 24in monitor, a benq 144hz so i kinda want a new video card to take advantage of the awesomeness.

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I agree with this, Id go with a R9 295X2 if your in that price range.

And the problem with SLI is that if your a big gamer, a lot of games dont fully utilize it or utilize it at all. I ran 7950s in crossfire for quiet some time. Created an insane amount of heat and noise, and most games would not use them to full capacity because they have bad crossfire/sli support.

Id stick with one card, you honestly cant go wrong with either choice but I personally always go with the AMD cards. I've just had better experiences overall with them.

i tried looking for a 295x but they all appear to be out of stock on newegg and amazon. amazon has some from third parties but they're way out of my price range. and wouldn't the 295x still suffer the same multi-gpu issues? isn't it just two 290s in crossfire on a single board? if i'm going to do that might as well go 970 sli...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4RyNNlKbJw

after watching that i'm really leaning towards a single 980ti and overclocking it high enough to come within the 970 sli. from what i can tell a 980ti at around 1.3 - 1.4ghz comes shy of a 970 sli system and just need 1 card.

which now comes to 980ti vs fury x.

the thing that causes me to hesitate with the fury x is seeing how poorly it performs at stock and its small overclocking head room. at most i could get it to match a 980ti at stock speeds while the 980ti still has plenty of overclocking head room.

what causes me to be hesitant with the 980ti is its dx12 controversy. seeing how i kept a 980x and a 470 for five years i'm one to get thorough use out of ones investments. i know dx12 titles are not really out yet, but they will be soon, and from the few that have come out, that ashes and the latest fables benchmark, it looks like amd can really give nvidia a run for its money. though iirc i do believe the 980ti still out performed the fury x in fables. it was the 390 series that showed impressive numbers but of course still slower. it was only ashes that showed a 290x performing faster or as fast as a 980ti but people said that game doesn't count? but at the same time would nvidia really allow developers to release titles that heavily use that async stuff? is async really ALL that important as in do developers really want to use it?
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I just picked up a 290X here on the forum market, same person I bought from is selling two 295X2s i think for ~550.

I have no experience with the 295X2, yes it will be recognized as crossfire but then again its all handled on board and not sure if youll run into the annoying driver issues like most dual-card crossfire/sli setup. When talking about cards of these power, a lot of it has to come to preference and where you feel most safe spending that kind of money, If you feel happiest taking card X over card Y, and can back up your decision with some good research then I wouldnt worry too much about what others say about each card.

Have you given any thought into picking up something cheaper and holding off until the 2016 cards release?
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I just picked up a 290X here on the forum market, same person I bought from is selling two 295X2s i think for ~550.

I have no experience with the 295X2, yes it will be recognized as crossfire but then again its all handled on board and not sure if youll run into the annoying driver issues like most dual-card crossfire/sli setup. When talking about cards of these power, a lot of it has to come to preference and where you feel most safe spending that kind of money, If you feel happiest taking card X over card Y, and can back up your decision with some good research then I wouldnt worry too much about what others say about each card.

Have you given any thought into picking up something cheaper and holding off until the 2016 cards release?

well i sorta did that for five years lol i don't really want to wait yet another year
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well i sorta did that for five years lol i don't really want to wait yet another year

I mean more along the lines of going with something that has a really good price-to-power ratio, You can pick up a used 290X for about $200 (got mine for $215 shipped) which is comparable to the GTX 970 you linked but close to half the price, or even just a single GTX 970 if your set on them and holding for nVidia to release their new Pascal line cards which on paper will be great. I mean ultimately the decision is yours but I'm just giving you my look on it. I was in a very similar situation a couple days ago. I have been running my two 7950s crossfire for almost 4 years, was going to sell them and set my budget to ~$500 for a new GPU but after further research I ended up buying a used 290X which may be a little older, but still the performance is there and the price on them right now are incredibly low for what they offer. I was able to sell both my 7950s and buy a 290X and still have money in my pocket. And i just decided to wait until next year to do my new system build, Im really looking forward to the 2016 GPUs that are going to be released.
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the fury x and evga 980ti hybird i really like a lot since they come with a "hybird" AIO cooler. those AIO coolers seem to do a fantastic job at keeping them cool from the reviews i've seen they have been able to push the 980ti hybrid to 1.4ghz.
a stock, non hybrid 980ti should do 1450 or more. Mine runs 1510MHz on stock voltage in TW3, which seems to be the ultimate test for the 980ti. But hybrid cooling is a great idea, air cooled 980ti is HOT AND LOUD if you wanna reach those clocks, I'm telling you. I recommend 980ti. Previously owned a 290 trix and this monster gives me twice the fps at 1440p.
Plus Fury X looks really embarrassing compared to 980ti @1080p. It's a match for it only at 4K.
Edited by Klocek001 - 10/1/15 at 10:48am
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You can either get a cheap r9 290x used one may be, and then upgrade next year. 290x still is rock solid right now. Plus you get it for very cheap these days.
Or you can get the card you want fury x or 980 ti, but youve waited since 5 years, why not use 290x for now and then upgrade? you can easily play at high settings if not ultra.
And as you mentioned 144hz monitor will help you with games like bf4 cs go dota 2. But i doubt any of the mentioned cards can run latest titles at 100+ fps. Sometimes even 60 is difficult.
And if you want to get it asap, get the fury x, its even 100$ cheaper. Can get a mouse or mech kb may be?
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And as you mentioned 144hz monitor will help you with games like bf4 cs go dota 2. But i doubt any of the mentioned cards can run latest titles at 100+ fps. Sometimes even 60 is difficult.
980ti oc'd will run 120fps easily.
just for fun I launched TW3 @1080p on my 980ti (core:1500 mem:stock) 110-130fps with all details at ultra except shadows high and no HW (loaction: oxenfurt). I play those settings @1440p and haven't seen it drop below 60 once.
Edited by Klocek001 - 10/1/15 at 11:28am
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