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Originally Posted by hatlesschimp View Post

We wont see the Panel for 3 years,

We wont see a GPU with the relevant horsepower for another 5 years,

And we wont see a GPU with the appropriate display connection for 10 years! LOL



The drip feeding never stops with technology!

You forgot the 15 years before Devs support it and it stops becoming a "Cinematic" experiance long enough to fulfill 120hz rolleyes.gif
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You can just use two cables. Or four. It's not a huge deal.
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That screen size is just too small. I'd welcome an 8k display that is 27" but this is just useless.

17.3'' indicates its intended for larger laptops (if its intended at consumers at all for a start cost might be too prohibitive).
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Hmmm... You can keep telling yourself that. The only reason why they aren't more popular is $$$ and awareness of how much better it is. I'm using a 4K OLED as well and have compared it with plenty of high end monitors. Nothing comes close, nothing is even on the same spectrum of depth it offers. I would never drop it for 8K or any amount of refresh rate.

Contrast is the most important factor for PQ, and it's infinite on OLED. Saying the only benefit is more vibrant colors and blacker blacks is totally false. Trying to go back to anything else seems impossible, it the comparison of looking outside through a spotless window or through a very aggressive gray filter.

Yes yes, contrast is important to you. We get that. Back in the real world, there are more factors involved than just the one you happen to be fixated on. Quit claiming your personal opinions are other people's opinions or universal facts.
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Whenever I see Zero in threads he is always fighting with someone over some arguments. You are not able to hold civil discussions?
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Most likely for tvs only. Monitors gets the crappiest bottom feeder panels.
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Having used 5K since Dec. last year, I for one cannot wait for 8K displays.

IMO, a 32" 8K @ 60hz (120hz would be even better) would be perfect.

They also need to make bigger 5K displays. 27" 5K is great @ 218PPI but at times I feel a bigger monitor would make better use of the higher resolution.
     
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You can just use two cables. Or four. It's not a huge deal.

 

And what would be driving the Data across those two cables...? We all get it from a doubling standpoint, it's just that I know of no machine capable on it's own "today" even with Quad CF/SLI of outputting that data rate from any type of Player or PC....yet.

 

So of course you would mean "in the future" it stands that some future GPU / BlueRayXX tech of course would have to be scaled for it.

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I don't understand why they always try to show off it's picture quality when every screen that's going to display the jpg will be incapable of rendering it.
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That'd still be too small. 8k at 27" is 326ppi which is right about the limit of vision... at 11" from the display. Sit 11" from a display and tell me how comfortable that is. At minimum for a computer monitor you'd be looking at 24" of viewing distance. From that far away the display would need to be more like 60" or larger to see any benefit from the 8k resolution. That sounds ridiculous (and it is), but at 60" you'd still have 146ppi which is about all your eyes can see from 2 feet. Of course you couldn't sit 2 feet from a 60" display and be comfortable, so you'd have to move even farther back... 8K is just unnecessary for computer monitors outside of certain tasks. 4K is plenty.

theres another reason why "Higher PPI than the eye can perceive" could give you better image clarity, its that image or text will be rendered much smoother.
to point out, texts displayed at a single-pixel ratio would look tiny indeed, but how about scaling the text's lines to be 3~5pixels thick? the "O" would look far more smoother and circular.

edit: or to put it into another word, its much like the concept of "oversampling".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacuity_%28scientific_term%29
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Visual acuity is measured by the smallest letters that can be distinguished on a chart and is governed by the anatomical spacing of the mosaic of sensory elements on the retina. Yet spatial distinctions can be made on a finer scale still: misalignment of borders can be detected with a precision up to 10 times better than visual acuity.

Your eyes build a picture by moving, constantly and subconsciously, even if you fix your gaze your eyes are moving. Actually image retention is quite poor and if your eye ever did stop moving completely the image would go blank within a few seconds (it just goes gray). If you're trying to detect a small space between two lines (a fine mesh or grid) it's going to get blurred out pretty quick compared to detecting fine detail on a high contrast edge where your individual receptors have lots of room to switch from seeing "bright" to "dark".
Looking at a grid the receptor is just constantly going "bright dark bright dark" and never gets a clear signal.

The best practical explanation I can give is it's the difference between being able to see texture and being able to see outlines.
If you're looking at a consistent texture, like smooth sand, cement or pavement, with average vision and a 50" screen viewed at six feet, then going from 2K resolution to 4K resolution probably won't do you much good.

However, 4K resolution will be useful at the same viewing distance and the same screen size when you're looking at high contrast edges, like the pupil of an eye, lettering, basically any patterns (lines, curves and corners, or any cracks and irregularities in the cement/pavement). Your brain is hardwired to find these things and it's very good at it.
Edited by ILoveHighDPI - 10/3/15 at 11:08am
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