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So I have the ASUS STX Essence 7.1 and I have a speaker system still connected using bare wires. I bought banana plugs thinking that those were the solution.

I'm very unsure when I thought is the wire coming from red & white slots on the speaker suppose to both be fused into one banana plug. I'm thinking that because the card has one socket for the left and right of each channel, meaning in example, there is a left input for the right channel and also a left and so forth for the other channels.

That's what I'm wondering, I never used banana plugs before but I brashly thought these must be the answer for old bare wires making it into the new world. Each speaker has a red and white socket for a wire to go into and it has been so long that I forgot what the red and white colors meant, polarity I'm guessing.
post #2 of 10
Each output jack on your sound card handles both right and left channels using a "two channel" plug.


Edited by billbartuska - 10/4/15 at 6:03am
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So I have the ASUS STX Essence 7.1 and I have a speaker system still connected using bare wires. I bought banana plugs thinking that those were the solution.

I'm very unsure when I thought is the wire coming from red & white slots on the speaker suppose to both be fused into one banana plug. I'm thinking that because the card has one socket for the left and right of each channel, meaning in example, there is a left input for the right channel and also a left and so forth for the other channels.

That's what I'm wondering, I never used banana plugs before but I brashly thought these must be the answer for old bare wires making it into the new world. Each speaker has a red and white socket for a wire to go into and it has been so long that I forgot what the red and white colors meant, polarity I'm guessing.
Please tell us the speaker model. Or take pics of the speakers.
Most likely the speakers are passive speakers, meaning that there is no way for them to output any kind of sound without a speaker amplifier.
Edited by Tiihokatti - 10/4/15 at 4:55pm
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Thanks guys, but it will be no point to go into this further. As for the speakers, I most certainly have to get a receiver and the banan plugs are only for receiver inputs
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Very few receivers/preamps/amps use banana plugs anymore except for very high end ones. Same for speakers.
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There is nothing "new world" about banana plugs, except their marketing is cunning and deceiving. Yeah, it's easier. Is it better than bare wire? No. The connection on a banana plug is worse than bare wire. All a banana plug is, is an "easy plug", you plug it in and unplug it just like a wall socket, but the speaker wire connection is bare-wire soldered to the banana plug, which leaves solder as the "bottleneck" and because solder is inferior to a bare wire connection, the connection is worse than bare wire. The solder connection is just another roadblock in the resistance path. The best solution is good wire and a tight connection. Also make sure the wire is clean, new looking, and free of discoloration and corrosion at the connection.

Just keep in mind that solder was made as an easy way to permanently connect two metal contacts. The conductivity of tin is far less than copper (Pure copper has 100% conductivity, tin has 15%), not to mention the non-conductive flux which is required to make the solder stick, so you want the least amount of solder connections as possible. Banana plugs are mostly soldered, although I have seen some banana plugs with bare wire screw compression terminals, which I would prefer.

I have to disagree with the last post though. Most receivers do use banana plugs except for the cheap ones, which use cheap spring compression terminals. Almost any 7.1 receiver will have banana plugs (at least for the main channels), but the banana plug outputs on receivers also double as screw-type compression terminals, which I always prefer over banana because of the bare wire connection.
    
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There is nothing "new world" about banana plugs, except their marketing is cunning and deceiving. Yeah, it's easier. Is it better than bare wire? No. The connection on a banana plug is worse than bare wire. All a banana plug is, is an "easy plug", you plug it in and unplug it just like a wall socket, but the speaker wire connection is bare-wire soldered to the banana plug, which leaves solder as the "bottleneck" and because solder is inferior to a bare wire connection, the connection is worse than bare wire. The solder connection is just another roadblock in the resistance path. The best solution is good wire and a tight connection. Also make sure the wire is clean, new looking, and free of discoloration and corrosion at the connection.

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I have to disagree with the last post though. Most receivers do use banana plugs except for the cheap ones, which use cheap spring compression terminals. Almost any 7.1 receiver will have banana plugs (at least for the main channels), but the banana plug outputs on receivers also double as screw-type compression terminals, which I always prefer over banana because of the bare wire connection.

Woah woah woah, You can solder it if you want like the guy in the video did that I watched to see how to insert the wire into a banana plug.

I see the plug as more of an adapter. The wire doesn't need to be soldered or anything. I just stripped some of the plastic, twisted the wire a little and then put it into the plug and screwed two screws on the banana plug to secure the wire and connect it, that's all.
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Woah woah woah, You can solder it if you want like the guy in the video did that I watched to see how to insert the wire into a banana plug.

I see the plug as more of an adapter. The wire doesn't need to be soldered or anything. I just stripped some of the plastic, twisted the wire a little and then put it into the plug and screwed two screws on the banana plug to secure the wire and connect it, that's all.

Are you saying you modded screws into it or it was the screw type banana plug?
    
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Some have screws, some are crimp, and some are solder only.

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Long story short- the guy is trying to plug passive speakers into something that doesn't have a speaker amp. He will hear absolutely nothing. End of conversation.
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