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Just wait for crysis 4 and play that on 4k and then will see do you need that extra beef on Gpu power or not ? The other question is : AS INTEL and AMD curent speed of upgrading the CPU performance are they gona handel all this GPU power (3 to 4 way SLI or XF)?

should be easier with dx12 and vulkan. Those make upgrading CPU even less important for gaming. At least on single card setups
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Is there a specific reason you would rush it? I mean unless there is a game you want to play and your current hardware isn't adequate or your current card dies, why not wait the extra month or two and get the 10%+ performance upgrade for probably the same price. GPU's don't really drop in price unless there is a new gen coming out or competition so you might be kicking yourself a month later. With Nvidia claiming big performance gains, I'd say it's worth the wait. Plus AMD might amaze everyone and put out a great competitor that will be worth buying or drive prices down.

I'd be more amazed if nvidia manages to top AMD on the new processes. That would signify that engineering capability has really changed. I don't think people realize what nvidia had to do to get to kepler and have launch advantages over AMD. If they are pushing pascal as a compute GPU, they might be reversing some of those cuts and that could mean pascal will be a power hungry chip at least. Like someone said before, overclocking could take a dive etc.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review/3

If they keep their software scheduler they can probably stay ahead of AMD on performance when asynchronous compute is out of use. That might be the most important. The gains on efficiency they get from investing in drivers is their biggest advantage and things point to that possibly going away next year. AMD ended up ahead sooner or later against kepler and probably most of the maxwell 2 cards, but next year might be the first time in a while they have a generational lead (no new GPU from nvidia on the same architecture wins). Mostly because they have the experience on HBM, dx12 like APIs and of making these full chips while fighting for efficiency. Nvidia dropped that fight with kepler and might pick it up, years later, in 2016.

This might not matter to nvidia though. A minor loss in consumer graphics won't matter if they sell more GPUs at higher prices to professionals.
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https://youtu.be/Tb7ZYSTYHbw?t=56

https://youtu.be/Tb7ZYSTYHbw?t=266
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Awesome this is what we need! Yearly releases of new gen cards, if it was up to amd it would be every 3+ years.

This way you can sell your card within the year recouping most of the cost and the people that cant afford to upgrade new can buy your card or stick with theirs not loosing any performance, everybody wins.
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Awesome this is what we need! Yearly releases of new gen cards, if it was up to amd it would be every 3+ years.

This way you can sell your card within the year recouping most of the cost and the people that cant afford to upgrade new can buy your card or stick with theirs not loosing any performance, everybody wins.

Meh not really. Bough HD 7970 for $550 + $120 for WB and sold it for $300 just before 290X launch.
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Awesome this is what we need! Yearly releases of new gen cards, if it was up to amd it would be every 3+ years.

This way you can sell your card within the year recouping most of the cost and the people that cant afford to upgrade new can buy your card or stick with theirs not loosing any performance, everybody wins.
Ahem, you will be seeing around 40% price drops every year. Actually, you are seeing them even right now.
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Meh not really. Bough HD 7970 for $550 + $120 for WB and sold it for $300 just before 290X launch.

That's because AMD cards don't really hold their value. 7970 saw price drops a few months after its release.
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That's because AMD cards don't really hold their value. 7970 saw price drops a few months after its release.

50 and he could have bought this . . .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-780Ti-Classified-HydroCopper-Includes-ACX-Cooler-/171961802565?hash=item2809b8df45
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GeForce HBM would be a cool name for top tier pascal
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That's because AMD cards don't really hold their value. 7970 saw price drops a few months after its release.
and cats are generally better than dogs.
sold my used 290 in July for more than I bought it last August. If I waited till now might've gotten 5% more, that's what they cost used now.
Edited by Klocek001 - 10/11/15 at 1:49am
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Damn, I'm about to drop $2000 on a laptop, would love to be able to wait a year and get one with pascal :/
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GeForce HBM would be a cool name for top tier pascal
and cats are generally better than dogs.
sold my used 290 in July for more than I bought it last August. If I waited till now might've gotten 5% more, that's what they cost used now.
HBM cannot be used in the name, just to tell you that. And dogs > cats. And dunno how its possible to sell a used 290 for more than a new one. Only a total braindead would fall for such stuff.
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