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All right. I'll get that done pretty soon. Quick question, though. Earlier, I had a pretty long gaming session, and after a while, my GPU temperature stayed steady in the 80-82 degree range. Is that fine, or is it too hot?

If you don't mind the noise set 70C as 100% on your afterburner fan profile. 80 is fine as far as gpu go but the cooler you can keep it the better. Do you live in a warm climate?

Edit:
Also when it comes to game settings don't use geforce experience, it's junk. For graphical fidelity mindful of performance I like to use the following -
Textures - highest
Shaders - highest
Shadows - medium
Post Processing - off (if frames are steady this will be the first setting I increase)
Motion Blur - off
Anti Aliasing - off (the biggest performance hit and one you shouldn't need at 1440p, increase after post processing if frames allow)

These settings are in most games but you'll have to tinker since they will always vary. Also in the nvidia panel on your desktop make sure power management in the Manage 3D Settings tab is set to prefer maximum performance.
Edited by compy532 - 10/11/15 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by compy532 View Post

If you don't mind the noise set 70C as 100% on your afterburner fan profile. 80 is fine as far as gpu go but the cooler you can keep it the better. Do you live in a warm climate?

Edit:
Also when it comes to game settings don't use geforce experience, it's junk. For graphical fidelity mindful of performance I like to use the following -
Textures - highest
Shaders - highest
Shadows - medium
Post Processing - off (if frames are steady this will be the first setting I increase)
Motion Blur - off
Anti Aliasing - off (the biggest performance hit and one you shouldn't need at 1440p, increase after post processing if frames allow)

These settings are in most games but you'll have to tinker since they will always vary. Also in the nvidia panel on your desktop make sure power management in the Manage 3D Settings tab is set to prefer maximum performance.

I do live in a warm climate (south Georgia). Are there any risks to cranking the fan up that high, like burning it out really quickly or something like that?

Another general question I have is what's the best option for vsync? I've always used adaptive the the NVidia control panel, but is that optimal? Is there any way that it could impact fps negatively?
post #33 of 64
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I do live in a warm climate (south Georgia). Are there any risks to cranking the fan up that high, like burning it out really quickly or something like that?

Another general question I have is what's the best option for vsync? I've always used adaptive the the NVidia control panel, but is that optimal? Is there any way that it could impact fps negatively?

If you bought your card new EVGA has an excellent 3 year warranty. Assuming it's the blower style (one fan on the right hand side) I wouldn't see it going out in that time.

As for vsync go with what feels best to you. I used to use the regular vsync option in the nvidia panel, however I've found in game vsync usually gives me better performance. I'm not terribly fond of adaptive but again it's a 'feel' sorta thing. Also if you have one enabled disable the other, IE if you use adaptive in the nvidia panel turn it off in game and vice versa.
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post #34 of 64
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I'd like to bump my own post as well as ask another question. I still have the same overclock on my GPU, but haven't overclocked my CPU yet. I've been monitoring the graphs in MSI Afterburner as I've played games, and most of the graphs seem pretty normal, but I notice that my drops in frames in game seem to correlate with MSI Afterburner showing that I'm hitting the maximum values for both Voltage Limit and OV Max Limit. Is this something that I should be concerned about, or is it just due to the limitations of my card? This article seems to think it's something to be worried about: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61310-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review-5.html
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I could add a lot of 'stuff' but I'm tired ATM so I'm just going to add one important thing here ... Borderlands II and TPS ... both run like crap in general when you have PhysX on anything but 'Low'. The PhysX coding is simply awful, and the offloading to your nVidia GPU (you know, the uber-special proprietary 'thing' you get with an nVidia GPU?) is highly unreliable in these games. IOW, your CPU ends up absorbing a TON of the 'load' from physX instead of your graphics card.

Bottom-line is ... if you're meaning to 'make sense of things' ... the Borderlands games are terrible examples to use, as they'll completely throw you off in terms of 'what makes sense'. They suffer from TONS of random frame-rate drops, mostly related to physX, and you never know whether the physX is actually running on your CPU or GPU (it's coded to be able to run on either one but in my experience seems to mostly run on CPU) ... then there's teh fact that it's an 'online' game so you introduce 'internet' related factors as well.

As you begin your OC'ing (and indeed, PC gaming in general) odyssey, I cannot stress how much you should IGNORE the behavior of Borderlands II & TPS as games in this paradigm. They run like crap, seriously. Though if you set PhysX to 'low', they begin to behave somewhat 'normally'.

Good luck and welcome to OCN.

Oh, and yeah, lots of 780 users will easily edge out your stock 780ti scores ... if they're overclockers, and you're not. Obviously there's limits to how much OC'ing can do, but 780 and 780ti are close enough, architecturally, that a 780 in the right hands can easily defeat a stock 780ti.

This phenomenon is basically WHY ... OCN exists wink.gif

Oh, and let me say another thing ... you should adjust image quality settings IN GAME pretty much ALWAYS, esp. when you're a novice-level user. Adjusting IQ via the NV Control Panel and/or GeForce Experience will give you nothing but friggin' heartache and confusion. GFE is hyped TO DEATH, but honestly ... it sucks, IMHO. Every game has it's own video quality settings, and i HIGHLY recommend you leave everything in the NV control panel and GFE set to defaults, and adjust IQ settings for each game you play individually, and IN GAME.

Using Afterburner (with on-screen display mode ON, so you can see what's going on as you play, in one corner of the screen) and in-game settings is the path gaming bliss IMHO. "External" tools like GFE/NV Control Panel (which adjust DRIVER settings, not the actual game settings) are something you can learn about later, and have SOME usefulness (as does nVInspector) but these are best left alone when you're starting out in teh PC gaming realm. Remember though that many settings require restarts (whether the game tells you that or not) before they take effect, esp. texture size/quality.
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post #36 of 64
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Thank you for your response. I do tend to run PhysX on either the "High" or "Medium" settings, and I have read that people have had problems with it. But I'll notice significant frame drops in the Borderlands games when looking off in the distance when there's a lot to see, even with view distance turned down one notch to "High". Am I wrong in thinking that my graphics card should be able to handle that, or is it an issue of poor optimization?

I'll also notice frame dips in Killing Floor 2, which is generally considered to be a well optimized game I think, even without everything turned up to max settings. Then again, there can end up being a lot of things going on on the screen at once so maybe that explains it. I don't remember having any issues with any other games. But some, like Metro: Last Light and Shadow of Mordor, I haven't played in a pretty long time.

And yeah, I didn't know that spreadsheet was from this website and that every score on it would be from an overclocked system. I also didn't know that overclocking could create that big of a performance boost.
post #37 of 64
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I wanted to ask some questions related to this article: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_780_ti_windforce_3x_review,27.html

All of his settings are higher than my current OC, and he didn't mess with the Core Voltage slider. Why is that? Is that a mistake on his part, or does it really matter? Also, is my current GPU OC fine where it is (still at the settings that Wihglah recommended) or will it need to be tweaked? Should I OC my CPU first before thinking about that?
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Most reviews from guru3d.com should be taken with a grain of salt, they are often rushed (spelling errors abound) and may or may not represent the product well. He should have added the extra voltage as it may have helped stabilize a higher overclock but it also may not have helped as well. You will see the term 'silicon lottery' tossed around a lot on tech sites because not every board produced is identical when it comes to how far over stock clocks it can go. A good indicator of your board's quality is it's ASIC value, download GPU-Z and follow these directions -

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/743990-ASIC-Quality-in-GPU-Z

This will give you a good idea how your board handles additional voltage.
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I followed the instructions in the link and it says that my ASIC Quality is 77.0%. Can you tell me what that means and how it affects my system?
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You have a good card according to that, it's basically Nvidia's/AMD's rating for the card based on it's efficiency handling power. Your cpu shouldn't be bottle-necking your performance but overclocking it can help. You should be able to get up to 4.2ghz without having to change anything but the multiplier. The biggest effect on games will come from your gpu overclock however, so find the max clock in that before anything.
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