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I do appriciate that feed back right there, but the point isn't to build a new gaming rig. I have that.. check my specs. I just wanted to max out this Inspiron 570 without bottlenecks for fun. tongue.gif
 
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I haven't read the entire thread since I am way too tired. If I say anything that has been said before, I apologize.
Basically the way I see it, if you can play the games you want to play, it'll be ok. If you can't, save up, work, I don't know.
But will you be bottlenecked ? Yes. Will that matter ? See above.

EDIT : Ohhhh, ninja post above. Slap a Deneb in there and that's probably the best you could do, unless it supports a x6.
    
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After all the research, the max i have seen anyone put on this board was a 965 that can me OCed to 4Ghz. I just don't know if a gtx960 would bottleneck my current Athlon II x4 630 and if so, would it bottleneck a 4ghz phenom ii x4 965..

I feel i need to make it clear. I do not want to change the Dell case, maybe mod it for airflow, and i want to keep the main board... just a project
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After all the research, the max i have seen anyone put on this board was a 965 that can me OCed to 4Ghz. I just don't know if a gtx960 would bottleneck my current Athlon II x4 630 and if so, would it bottleneck a 4ghz phenom ii x4 965..

Why even spend for money ($200) for a GTX960.
You should be able to find something still decent for $150 (even a little less).
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Missing the point... i have no cares what costs what or how someone thinks i should do something different, other than the main question.
 
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Get the 965. The extra cache will help and be noticed.
 
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If you can't run a X6, such as the 1055T mentioned earlier, then you should definitely opt for the 965, no question. Even if you can't overclock it whatsoever on the Dell board, you would want to get the best that you can for that platform, for use in conjunction with the GTX 960.

Hopefully you could get a mild FSB OC out of it, CPU multi on that board is probably locked. Otherwise you always have K10Stat.



Since when do oem boards have an option to change the BCLK frequency?
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Dont think my old mobo can unlock cores. Question
Can it be unlocked from another mobo that supports it and then placed on my board as unlocked? Is that how it works? Or does each motherboard have to unlock it period?


No. You need a board that has Advanced Clock Calibration in the bios.
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After all the research, the max i have seen anyone put on this board was a 965 that can me OCed to 4Ghz. I just don't know if a gtx960 would bottleneck my current Athlon II x4 630 and if so, would it bottleneck a 4ghz phenom ii x4 965..

I feel i need to make it clear. I do not want to change the Dell case, maybe mod it for airflow, and i want to keep the main board... just a project


I don't see how you can overclock a cpu in an oem board save an Alienware? Unless it is some kind of modded bios. Is there a setting in the bios to change the BCLK frequency? Plus the fact that the board may very well be 4+1 phase with no heatsink on the fets. The board may very well go "pop" trying to run a 965 BE even a C3 stepping at 4 GHz.
Edited by chrisjames61 - 10/7/15 at 3:51pm
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Yes, it is tested and proven on this board to OC and get 4Ghz.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19490818
 
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I don't see how you can overclock a cpu in an oem board save an Alienware? Unless it is some kind of modded bios. Is there a setting in the bios to change the BCLK frequency? Plus the fact that the board may very well be 4+1 phase with no heatsink on the fets. The board may very well go "pop" trying to run a 965 BE even a C3 stepping at 4 GHz.

This is true.

Even if there is a bios update that allows that board to OC, I would make for damn sure that board can handle it. I'm guessing that mobo is not and was never actually intended for OCing.

EDIT:




If this is you're mobo: I highly recommend you don't OC. It's not built for it. Can you do it? Sure I guess, based on this bios update you say it has, but should you on THAT board? HELL NO.
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Yes, it is tested and proven on this board to OC and get 4Ghz.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19490818


He overclocked using AMD Overdrive. He said he didn't touch the default vcore. If that is the case that is good because that board is made to run at a certain set of parameters. As opposed to a CVFZ or Sabertooth which have the headroom for hefty electrical demands over stock and the resultant heat.









Stark contrast.
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