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Dat Ivy.

As someone running at 4k on Titan X SLI who did so on a 4.8 GHz 2600k and then a 4.6 GHz 5930k, I can tell you that this doesn't matter. Performance was basically the same. 4k is very GPU limited even with these sorts of setups. Maybe if you got to 3 or 4 GPU configs a bump to Skylake or Haswell-E would be meaningful, but not with two cards at these settings. inb4 "But but but but but but... AMD DX11 CPU overhead"
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I haven't had the chance to read the review in detail, but two observations:

On this summary page here, it appears that some settings are lower or different between Nvidia and Amd cards?

And, what's with the subjective comments such as "it feels like more stutter with Furyx cross fire"? ... lol
Whatever happened to the quantifiable testing of frametimes variances for both sli and cross fire configurations like that other review site pcper used to do? tongue.gif.

[H] steadfastly refuses to quantify anything they say beyond what you see in their graphs. I used to argue with them a bunch on their forums and eventually got tired of talking to a brick wall, so I left. I do not understand why they are held in such high esteem on OCN compared to other review sites. Their reviews are usually worth reading but they are probably the most subjective evaluations out there among well known hardware sites. Their reviews are the equivalent of "Trust me, I'm a professional" rolleyes.gif



Anyways, I've been saying all along that a 4GB frame buffer would be a problem in 4k and here's the evidence of that beginning to happen. I was surprised that the Titan X setup had a meaningful advantage over the 980 Ti in a few tests... did not expect that. Also, very interesting to see their Witcher 3 results... that game must love overclocking, because I can run around ~50fps average with all maxed settings except post-processing AA.
Edited by BigMack70 - 10/7/15 at 7:07am
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As someone running at 4k on Titan X SLI who did so on a 4.8 GHz 2600k and then a 4.5 GHz 5930k, I can tell you that this doesn't matter. Performance was basically the same. 4k is very GPU limited even with these sorts of setups. Maybe if you got to 3 or 4 GPU configs a bump to Skylake or Haswell-E would be meaningful, but not at these settings. inb4 "But but but but but but... AMD DX11 CPU overhead"
[H] steadfastly refuses to quantify anything they say beyond what you see in their graphs. rolleyes.gif I used to argue with them a bunch on their forums and eventually got tired of talking to a brick wall, so I left. I do not understand why they are held in such high esteem on OCN compared to other review sites. Their reviews are usually worth reading but they are probably the most subjective evaluations out there among well known hardware sites.



Anyways, I've been saying all along that a 4GB frame buffer would be a problem in 4k and here's the evidence of that beginning to happen. I was surprised that the Titan X setup had a meaningful advantage over the 980 Ti in a few tests... did not expect that. Also, very interesting to see their Witcher 3 results... that game must love overclocking, because I can run around ~50fps average with all maxed settings except post-processing AA.

here was mine in BF4 MP 64 with just 2 290s . . .

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post #13 of 81
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So according to that Fury X crossfire > Titan X SLI

Looks like 4K is kind of ready now too
I'd say they're head to head with reference 980ti if you exclude GTA5, which we definitely shouldn't do. But really well done for the Fury X. I still think these tests should be done in this way : which card can run the highest settings at 4K without dropping under 60fps for more than 5% of the duration of the test.
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But really well done for the Fury X.
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So according to that Fury X crossfire > Titan X SLI

Anyone saying things like this didn't read the article. rolleyes.gif
Edited by BigMack70 - 10/7/15 at 7:30am
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Now how about some comparisons with maximum overclocks applied. Or even minor or typical overclocks.
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post #16 of 81
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So according to that Fury X crossfire > Titan X SLI

Looks like 4K is kind of ready now too
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It all comes down to what works best for the games you are playing. We cannot give an overall "best" award to either GTX 980 Ti SLI or R9 Fury X CrossFire because it just swings back and forth too much to call it. One could argue that in future games, for the least amount of trouble having 6GB of VRAM per GPU on GTX 980 Ti might be more advantageous, and that could be all it takes to make the decision for someone.

Aka they are about equal and it comes down to the game you are playing.
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Now how about some comparisons with maximum overclocks applied. Or even minor or typical overclocks.

Absolutely. Given that my 980ti is running at 1530 mhz which is a significant boost in performance we need to test the fury x at its about average overclock to 980ti SLI at an average overclock for that card and see what we get. This should be an OC site and almost everyone here will overclock their cards to some degree.
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As someone running at 4k on Titan X SLI who did so on a 4.8 GHz 2600k and then a 4.6 GHz 5930k, I can tell you that this doesn't matter. Performance was basically the same. 4k is very GPU limited even with these sorts of setups. Maybe if you got to 3 or 4 GPU configs a bump to Skylake or Haswell-E would be meaningful, but not with two cards at these settings. inb4 "But but but but but but... AMD DX11 CPU overhead"

Yet some games do utilise CPU.
Else why did you upgrade to 5930K if it is meaningless?
New CPU is not just plain CPU performance, but also PCIE lanes, memory access and speed. There is more to CPU than just clocks.
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Absolutely. Given that my 980ti is running at 1530 mhz which is a significant boost in performance we need to test the fury x at its about average overclock to 980ti SLI at an average overclock for that card and see what we get. This should be an OC site and almost everyone here will overclock their cards to some degree.

That and the fact that a pretty high number of the 980Ti's sold are factory overclocked to a good level above the "stock" version.
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Yet some games do utilise CPU.
Else why did you upgrade to 5930K if it is meaningless?
New CPU is not just plain CPU performance, but also PCIE lanes, memory access and speed. There is more to CPU than just clocks.

Just felt like upgrading after 3 years on a 2600k. Performance increased in one and exactly one scenario: the second level of Crysis 3 which is crazy CPU intensive with all the grass... FPS went from ~55 to ~70. That's it. At 4k, CPU is very close to irrelevant for gaming at the moment.
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