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I'm troubled with the way Mozilla is choosing to fund itself by way of putting ads in the New Tab page instead of doing crowdfunding like Wikipedia does, but what just happened with Firefox 41 adds an unprecedented layer of shadiness to it.

In case you didn't know, for the past year or more the only way to not have Firefox load up webpages in the background to make the thumbnails it presented in the new tab page wasn't to select the blank page because they were loaded anyway. This poses a security problem because said webpages are being loaded behind your back, not only adding pageviews to a site you may not wish to visit anymore or for the time being (say you just heard it has a virus, like it happened with Yahoo a few weeks ago), but also for a time not even Noscript was aware of this behaviour, so whatever cross site requests (all those ad companies, etc) were being made went through behind your back, again compromising your privacy and your security, but above all, overriding your settings and your wishes.

The only way to get a real blank page was as you could read on Mozilla's site if you searched for it:
Quote:
How do I turn the new tab page off?

If you don't want to see top sites when you make a new tab you can easily hide them:

To toggle the new tab page off or back on, open a blank tab and then click the button in the upper-right corner of the page.

Hide New Tab - Win Hide New Tab - Mac Hide New Tab - Lin Hide tiles 29 - Win Hide tiles 29 - Mac Hide tiles 29 - Lin

If you are concerned about your privacy, you can turn this feature off completely:

In the Location bar, type about:config and press EnterReturn.
The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the about:config page.
Type browser.newtab.url in the search box.
Double-click the browser.newtab.url preference and change the url from about:newtab to about:blank. Alternately, you can change it to about:home for the Firefox Google home page, or type in your preferred home page, for example google.com.
Click OK and close the about:config tab.


It was already troubling that if you wanted to turn it off completely - which is implicitly admitting that it wasn't really off when showing a blank page, it was still working in the background behind your back - you had to resort to fiddle with advanced configuration settings, but hey, at least you had that option.

With Firefox 41, not anymore.


The "about:config" -> "browser.newtab.url" -> set "about:newtab" to "about:blank" no longer works. It's still there but does nothing.


But the worse part is that the suggested sites option that, according to their words, "Firefox matches to your browsing history" to deliver ads is turned on by default, overriding your settings. So essentially what seems to be happening is that at least the very first time you open a new tab after having upgraded to Firefox 41 and are surprised by this you have no other option but to share your browsing history with Mozilla before you can turn it off.


I've got to say I'm deeply disappointed with the way Mozilla is going, they were the only alternative that actually let you configure things, even if some were being progressively hidden.

Doing things behind people's backs is the most shameful thing they could do.


And what is perhaps the most saddening part is loading up Mozilla's website and the first thing you get to read is one of their main philosophies "The features you love. The privacy you trust." Perhaps I wouldn't be so annoyed if I wasn't here using their browser and seeing how increasingly hypocritical their are getting.


Edited by tpi2007 - 10/7/15 at 5:21am
 
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post #2 of 11
^^ +1

I was wondering how to get rid of that stuff.
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Brilliant find !

many thanks
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Been using FF 41 for a few weeks. That, and adblock plus extension make the memory usage smaller.

There's an article explaining it here:

https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2015/07/01/firefox-41-will-use-less-memory-when-running-adblock-plus/

I always configure a lot of stuff in my browser after installation, and yes, I usually remove the "preload suggested webs on new tab" thingy. I also configure the browser not to remember some history stuff etc.

Finally, I add my own web shortcuts on the bookmark toolbar.
Edited by ignsvn - 10/7/15 at 6:13am
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You can just turn it off. There a little cog in the top right hand of the new tab with the option to show a blank page.
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Originally Posted by fashric View Post

You can just turn it off. There a little cog in the top right hand of the new tab with the option to show a blank page.

But does it really turn it off? That is the question. If it works in the same way as the many previous versions of Firefox since it's been present, turning it off doesn't really turn it off, hence the "real blank page" instructions that were posted by Mozilla which I quoted above. That solution doesn't work anymore with Firefox 41. So I presume that the only thing that changes when you select the "Show blank page" is whether you see it or not just like it before, not whether it keeps or not loading pages behind the scenes (and behind your back) to make those thumbnails.

That and the fact that it turned suggested sites on before I had a chance to turn it off, probably meaning that my browsing history was sent to Mozilla. Careless way to program these things, it's the least I can say.


Anyway, I just found out that it seems that Mozilla implemented an API for add-ons to restore the blank page functionality. Here is one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-override/


I'm not sure if in the background the browser is still doing the same thing and just not showing it to you though, like it did before.
Edited by tpi2007 - 10/7/15 at 12:38pm
 
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post #7 of 11
If anyone is looking for an alternative... Give Palemoon a try (also heard good things about Waterfox). They should basically have all the same plugins available since they are forks of Firefox. I really haven't had any issues with Palemoon that I can think of.. whereas Firefox has had multiple cases of memory leaks, crashing, etc. Maybe I'm just to hard on the ol FF.

It is a bit disappointing that Mozilla is going this way though. They are probably at the point where they have enough weight to throw around and sneak in these things, the masses will be none the wiser and they get some ad revenue.
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I just checked with a Ctrl-T to instantiate a new tab, and I can verify that things seem to be working as intended with these settings - totally blank new tab, no ads.



This is on Windows 7 64-bit, Firefox 41.0.1.
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Yes, that works. But what if you want Google on new tabs instead of a blank page?
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Oh wow, what a tantrum.

 

I saw it, I googled for 2 minutes, installed the new tab override, changed it to my BookRect page, sorted.

 

No big deal.

   
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