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Unbelievable.... The FALL of mankind.

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I don't have sim card in my smarthphone.
My main TV is a 50" Pioneer plasma from ~2006 which is a "dumb" TV.
Also when on PC I put my webcam in the drawer(it is still connected) when not used.

It seems that having uncommon habits and using outdated hardware is useful sometimes.

That's sad isn't it. Technology comes with more than a Price Tag now ... Look at what you have to do just to have a face to face conversation with someone.

Putting that cam in the drawer... what the hell man. Why the hell does humanity want us to be afraid of ourselves ?? Humans.... damn humans... mad.gif
    
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Here's some more government smart-phone spying stuff for you to be paranoid over, more so for the southern hemisphere folks [Aussies in NSW especially if you read into it a bit wink.gif ]

https://www.finfisher.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher
http://www.itnews.com.au/news/nsw-police-named-as-finfisher-spyware-user-392090
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/files/0/289_GAMMA-201110-FinSpy.pdf
http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-govt-spyware-company-hacked-gammas-finfisher-leaked/

For those that do not want to bother reading into it, the leaked malware and its complete instruction manual sets can now be downloaded for free by any person or government department and used against you to gather intel or just generally mess with you - this is absolutely insidious software made by people loyal to large handshaking corporations and corrupt governments. Which is pretty much every country on the planet.

If you read into the instruction manuals for it, it should say which phones and OS's it can penetrate, and which it can not.

But it looks like they do not even need FinFisher anymore - because any Law Enfarcement Officer can just waltz into their local Telecommunications corporation and simply ask for a users backlog of data and be given a USB drive filled with exactly that. This is what back room corporate and government handshaking gets us - THIS is what the Bilderberg meetings are all about - new, more efficient ways to control the population of "humans" on the planet.
Edited by KRAAG - 10/8/15 at 1:05pm
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Here's some more government smart-phone spying stuff for you to be paranoid over, more so for the southern hemisphere folks [Aussies in NSW especially if you read into it a bit wink.gif ]

https://www.finfisher.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher
http://www.itnews.com.au/news/nsw-police-named-as-finfisher-spyware-user-392090
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/files/0/289_GAMMA-201110-FinSpy.pdf
http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-govt-spyware-company-hacked-gammas-finfisher-leaked/

For those that do not want to bother reading into it, the leaked malware and its complete instruction manual sets can now be downloaded for free by any person or government department and used against you to gather intel or just generally mess with you - this is absolutely insidious software made by people loyal to large handshaking corporations and corrupt governments. Which is pretty much every country on the planet.

If you read into the instruction manuals for it, it should say which phones and OS's it can penetrate, and which it can not.

But it looks like they do not even need FinFisher anymore - because any Law Enfarcement Officer can just waltz into their local Telecommunications corporation and simply ask for a users backlog of data and be given a USB drive filled with exactly that. This is what back room corporate and government handshaking gets us - THIS is what the Bilderberg meetings are all about - new, more efficient ways to control the population of "humans" on the planet.

To be fair I actually kind of agree with the creation of software like that.

Non-disclosure of vulnerabilities is a bit of a grey area, and when they're genuinely dangerous vulnerabilities I think they should be disclosed, but targeted malware is a useful tool and it's neat that police forces are using it.

Problems arise when software like this is used without a warrant, or when blanket data collection is deployed. I personally have no issues with targeted spying as part of a genuine investigation, or any of the tools they use to that effect.
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You could be a terrorist. Prove the government wrong.

That is the premise warrantless, suspiciousless investigation. That's what the constitution says, and that's the reason Snowden is whistleblowing.
People called him a nutjob when he leaked that the NSA was collecting phone records on home soil. The NSA was questioned by Congress and denied it. Congress believed Snowden's leak, and pushed until they found out the NSA was lying.

If that doesn't establish credibility on Snowden's part, I don't know what does.

Snowden leaked hundreds of thousands of classified documents.

Surely he must have some proof to back up his wild clickbait claims? No? It doesn't matter to you does it?

So much for the scientific method. Betcha you're a George Norrey fan. lol



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What if I told you existence isn't a 4 dimensional space-time model, but a 2d holographic film like a soap bubble that's empty in the middle except for the projection of the hologram?

Prove me wrong. tongue.gif

No and No. Did he endanger YOU personally? Well if he did, you knew the job was illegal when you took it.

and how are they wild? Where's the sources to prove against him?

and your last statement doesn't even make sense.

What does it matter if he endangered me personally? He endangered me personally as much as he helped protect you from the NSA. That much is truth.

My last statement? I see you're not up on theoretical physics. Research the terms holographic universe and gravitational torsion. Thanx.
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What does theoretical physics have to do with Snowden?
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What does theoretical physics have to do with Snowden?

My wild clickbait claim is backed by scientific data.

Surely Snowden must have read this somewhere in his leaked documents.

He is whistleblowing... so yeah, the burden of proof is kinda at his expense, not mine.
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What does theoretical physics have to do with Snowden?

My wild clickbait claim is backed by scientific data.

Surely Snowden must have read this somewhere in his leaked documents.

He is whistleblowing... so yeah, the burden of proof is kinda at his expense, not mine.

I'm not asking you to find proof for what he claims.

I'm asking you to find proof about how his claims are wrong!

How do you know phones can't be hacked by 1 text message?
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Originally Posted by NihilOC View Post

I personally have no issues with targeted spying as part of a genuine investigation, or any of the tools they use to that effect.

Preventing a possible law from being broken is no excuse for voyeurism.
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Originally Posted by aweir View Post

Preventing a possible law from being broken is no excuse for voyeurism.

If you are engaging in an investigation against an individual, or organization, that has been credibly linked to illegal activity and you wish to ascertain whether or not they are genuinely engaged in those activities how would you go about this without watching them?

Investigations, by their very nature, are voyeuristic. What you are proposing as an alternative is the outright abolition of police investigation.
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