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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

GPUs are perfectly fine albeit have a shortened lifespan at 90+c. The issue is that VRMs are usually 10-20c higher than GPU temps and they aren't fine/are at their thermal limits at 110+c.

seems the 290x was designed to run at 95 C for a prolonged period without any effect on lifespan

sources for 95 C being safe:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/23/amd_radeon_r9_290x_video_card_review/15#.VjTWELfnviI
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"Do not be alarmed at the 95c temperatures on the R9 290X. Remember, the video card is designed to run with the GPU that hot. It may be a shock to us, expecting much lower temperatures, but 95c really is OK for the card and GPU."


http://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-r9-290x-review/
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"AMD have been very keen to point out that the 95ºC operating temperature of the Hawaii GPU is perfectly normal, and presents no tangible risk to the working life of the chip."

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/10/28/is-the-amd-radeon-r9-290x-too-hot/1
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"Under load the card runs at 95C, which is not only hot enough to burn you but also alarmingly close to what is generally considered the limit at which silicon can operate - around 100-105C. In comparison this card’s main rival, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 780, runs at around 80C when under load.

However, AMD insists this is by design and not a problem. "

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/the-radeon-r9-290x-review/5
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"The 95C maximum operating temperature that most 28nm devices operate under is well understood by engineering teams, along with the impact to longevity, power consumption, and clockspeeds when operating both far from it and near it. In other words, there’s nothing inherently wrong with letting an ASIC go up to 95C so long as it’s appropriately planned for. And this, more than anything else, is what has changed for 290X and Hawaii."

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/his-radeon-r9-290x-review,11.html
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"As noted in our explanation of the new mechanisms included in PowerTune on the 290 Series, we have designed the 290 Series to operate at a steady state of 95C. By running at 95C, we are both maximizing the performance and minimizing the acoustics of the product. We do this by increasing clocks/voltages and/or reducing the fan speed until the GPU runs at the temperature target. By having the GPU target at lower temperature, you sacrifice either performance or acoustics.

Some of you have expressed concern over the GPU running at 95C. Be assured, that 95C is a perfectly safe temperature at which the GPU can operate for its entire life. There is no technical reason to reduce the target temperature below 95C. However, like all aspects of PowerTune, this is completely within the control of the end user. If you would rather have you GPU operate at a lower temperature, such as 85C or 73C, we strongly encourage you to customize it to your preference and write about it in your review. This is, after all, the reason that we design products with this level of flexibility."
post #272 of 373
290X ref had excellent VRM cooling iirc. As for 90+ temps being okay, AMD were in damage control. Turned the card into a throttling mess.
    
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290X ref had excellent VRM cooling iirc. As for 90+ temps being okay, AMD were in damage control. Turned the card into a throttling mess.

all I know is lots of these 290x cards were sold in the past 2 years and they all hit 95 C by design if they have the reference cooler and I haven't heard of a class action lawsuit about cards dying due to heat have you? I haven't even heard a lot of complaints about the cards dying due to heat so maybe AMD knows something we don't or maybe 5 years from now they'll all be dead thumb.gif
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So many people ITT complaining, I'm just sitting here setting up a 980ti, steam link, and new projector for the FO4 release.
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So many people ITT complaining, I'm just sitting here setting up a 980ti, steam link, and new projector for the FO4 release.

i'm sitting in front of this so I'm ready for FO4! biggrin.gif

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So many people ITT complaining, I'm just sitting here setting up a 980ti, steam link, and new projector for the FO4 release.

watch me game biggrin.gifthumb.gif (i suck at tomb raider)
post #277 of 373
Just upgrade my ram to 16GB. I got a slick deal on some Patriot Viper 1866mhz sticks for $64.99 (2x8GB) @ Fry's yesterday.

RAM will not be an issue for a while now. thumb.gif
Edited by Mad Pistol - 11/1/15 at 8:49pm
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Just upgrade my ram to 16GB. I got a slick deal on some Patriot Viper 1866mhz sticks for $64.99 (2x8GB) @ Fry's yesterday.

RAM will not be an issue for a while now. thumb.gif

Nothing like a good safety net.
     
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i'm sitting in front of this so I'm ready for FO4! biggrin.gif



Nice setup. I'm a little jelly that yours is done. Mine is still in boxes and shipping, and I have to figure out how to hang a projector and screen still in the next 8 days.
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Nice setup. I'm a little jelly that yours is done. Mine is still in boxes and shipping, and I have to figure out how to hang a projector and screen still in the next 8 days.

Easy peazy...unless you have unbelievable amounts of bass, then hanging the projector so it doesn't vibrate and shift the image is a bit more difficult
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