Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › Computer problems, possibly bad memory?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Computer problems, possibly bad memory?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
So heres the situation: Ive been having some minor issues with my computer for a while. The computer will sometimes at seemingly random times while just browsing the internet or something like that (although it seems like it often happens while im viewing large image files) freeze completely. Nothing responds and I have to shut down the system. This has happened 2 times in the last week and a couple of times earlier some time ago.

Yesterday I went to overclock my CPU and enable the XMP Profile on the memory. Everytime i saved my settings the computer failed to boot and then gave me a message saying that it was due to a bad overclock. I tried messing with various settings and when i disabled the XMP profile the computer booted successfully. I was still unable to find a stable overclock on the CPU though. Even at a very modest 4 GHz the computer would freeze or crash in Prime 95 (no BSoD just shutting down and re booting) and I believe that Prime also uses some of your memory?

The weird thing is, last time I had problems and ran MemTest it said that there was no problems detected.

Obviously something is wrong. Do you think I need new memory or is something else slowly dying on me?
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 10
First I would reset CMOS with the jumper on the motherboard and try your OC settings again.

If it fails, next I would update the BIOS to the latest version.

If you still have OC errors If you are still having problems I would do a bare bones test. Unplug everything from your computer that isn't necessary to run it. All USB, extra hard drives, PCI cards etc and use only 1 stick of RAM. Then run more test. Do Memtest and Prime95.

If you still have problems this will at least rule out all other devices as the issue and we can go from there.
Jarvis
(26 items)
 
Pepto Pony
(12 items)
 
MrDVR
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 4.8Ghz CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4g 16Gb G. Skill Ripjaws 4x4 @ 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128Gb SSD Intel 160 Gb SSD Intel 250 Gb SSD Generic DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x Noctua (NF-P12-1300 )1300rpm Premium Silent... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper Radiator 240 Noctua NF-A6X25 FLX Quiet Computer Cooling Fan ... NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller w/ Five 30 watt... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x Corsair Air Series SP120   COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing  Monsoon 90° Rotary Angle Fitting - 5/8" - Red Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 100 ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
ModMyToys DreamFlex Premium 3/8" ID Tubing Reta... Coolance Liquid Coolant Bottle, 700mL Fluoresce... Coolance PMP 450 Variable Speed D5 Pump Bitspower D5 Mod Top V2 Pom version 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung KS8000 4k UHD 65" Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5000 Keyboard and Mouse SeaSonic M12II 750 
CaseAudio
My TV Stand Cabinet Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-4300 Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 EVGA Geforce GTX 260 G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair SSD Samsung 7200 Laptop drive Some DVD Burner I took out of a dead Dell. Noctua NH-C12P SE14 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 19" 16:9 Logitec wireless Enermax 650w Apevia X-Cruiser3 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A6-6400K Dual Core MSI A78M-E35 Onboard 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz (2 x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 320 SSD Western Digital 2.5" 1Tb 7200rpm  LG External Blue-ray Combo Drive Noctual NH-L9a 92mm SS02 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Toshiba Regza 52" 1080p Logitech K400 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D 
CaseAudioOther
A piece of plywood and some zip ties. Onboard Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250 dual tuner card. 
  hide details  
Reply
Jarvis
(26 items)
 
Pepto Pony
(12 items)
 
MrDVR
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 4.8Ghz CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4g 16Gb G. Skill Ripjaws 4x4 @ 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 840 PRO 128Gb SSD Intel 160 Gb SSD Intel 250 Gb SSD Generic DVD-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x Noctua (NF-P12-1300 )1300rpm Premium Silent... Alphacool NexXxos UT60 Full Copper Radiator 240 Noctua NF-A6X25 FLX Quiet Computer Cooling Fan ... NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller w/ Five 30 watt... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x Corsair Air Series SP120   COUGAR CF-V12H Vortex Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing  Monsoon 90° Rotary Angle Fitting - 5/8" - Red Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 100 ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
ModMyToys DreamFlex Premium 3/8" ID Tubing Reta... Coolance Liquid Coolant Bottle, 700mL Fluoresce... Coolance PMP 450 Variable Speed D5 Pump Bitspower D5 Mod Top V2 Pom version 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung KS8000 4k UHD 65" Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5000 Keyboard and Mouse SeaSonic M12II 750 
CaseAudio
My TV Stand Cabinet Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-4300 Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 EVGA Geforce GTX 260 G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair SSD Samsung 7200 Laptop drive Some DVD Burner I took out of a dead Dell. Noctua NH-C12P SE14 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 19" 16:9 Logitec wireless Enermax 650w Apevia X-Cruiser3 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A6-6400K Dual Core MSI A78M-E35 Onboard 4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz (2 x 2) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 320 SSD Western Digital 2.5" 1Tb 7200rpm  LG External Blue-ray Combo Drive Noctual NH-L9a 92mm SS02 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Toshiba Regza 52" 1080p Logitech K400 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D 
CaseAudioOther
A piece of plywood and some zip ties. Onboard Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250 dual tuner card. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 10
First you would need to separate where problems can come from. Try running everything at stock settings and manually enter RAM timings and test the system. Prime 95, memtest, super pi should all stress the memory and if you have any serious problems there then you most likely have a hardware issue.

If everything goes well there, then try to overclock the CPU, but this time loosen up the RAM timings and/or lower the RAM speed as not to stress the RAM. This will let you see if your overclock errors are coming from BIOS settings, heat, or some other issue instead of the RAM. After running the CPU through tests any figuring out solutions to any errors, then you would probably want to back off the OC a bit and try to bring the RAM up to speed. If you keep getting errors before reaching this point, you may want to check CPU and system temperatures, BIOS settings, and also the power supply. Hopefully this can help you narrow down the problem and find a solution. Good luck!
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
I have now run MemTest on all 4 memory sticks individually, no erros detected.

Running a Blend test in Prime 95 @ stocks speeds with all 4 memory sticks still results in the system freezing after about 10 min.
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Update: For some reason I am not able to recreate the problems I was having earlier. I have been testing the memory sticks individually, removing them all, reinserting them 2 at a time in different slots on the motherboard and now suddenly there seems to be no problem.

I can now boot with no issues with the XMP profile enabled, which yesterday gave me an error when trying to boot and I can run Prime 95 for an hour with the CPU at 4.2 GHz and the XMP profile enabled, which yesterday and earlier today would cause the system to freeze after a couple of minutes.

Am I just lucky and can I expect the problems to be back or can reseating the memory sticks perhaps have solved the issues?
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 10
More like operating system or HDD issue, check your HDD
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PetruV View Post

More like operating system or HDD issue, check your HDD

How do I check my SSDs health ? Samsung Magician says my drive is in good health and all is OK.

It is entirely possible that something is up with my OS though as earlier this year I encountered some mysterious error which then broke part of my OS and I had to repair it from a bootable USB drive. Perhaps its time for a clean install?
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
Ye Olde PC
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G Kingston HyperX Blu 8 GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 500 GB SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB NZXT Kraken X60 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311h Steelseries G6v2 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W CM HAF-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech G502 SB X-Fi Titanium HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 10
i don't think an ssd could cause that, so it's definently your os, do a clean reinstall
post #9 of 10
I would do this: You leave one stick of memory and set it MANUALLY to default settings 1600mhz 9-9-9-24. Turn off XMP. Reset CPU OC to stock clocks. Stress test. If stable- do the cpu OC until stable. Then insert second memory stick. If stable you can try to oc memory as well.
post #10 of 10
if your memory was bad, your pc would just bluescreen, and most probably not even boot
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Memory
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › Computer problems, possibly bad memory?