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post #11 of 21
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ok raijintek is somewhat unique in that their pump is in clear plastic. can you see, feel and hear the pump working while you have the machine on? is there excessive air in the system that is preventing the pump from working properly? because you definitely shouldn't be getting the kind of temps you got with a 240mm rad system. if the pump is working and you see water flowing instead of getting stuck on air bubbles then i'm not really sure what to say except aside from being a loud unit, the triton should perform much better then what you are indicating.

I completely agree. I just changed out the pump res unit for a new one that Raijintek just shipped me because the other one started to crack. I know that the pump is working because I tested it before I put it into the system(I had to bleed and etc just like a custom loop). I can try to tighten the screws down a bit more but can't guarantee that my pc would start up if i tighten it all the way. Could it be that my CPU is bad or something? Could it be that I'm using integrated graphics from my cpu to power my 2nd monitor?
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post #12 of 21
it's "very unlikely" that it's a bad CPU... i mean it's "possible" that the chip wasn't manufactured properly and the TIM under the heat spreader is somehow not doing its job, but it's "less likely" then a bad cooling system/improper mounting of the cooling system.

if it's the chip, then the solution is to delid it and put some cool laboratory liquid ultra (CLU) on the chip, but that WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY so not the best idea unless you were looking to do that in the 1st place. here is some info on it just in case you are considering

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide



however, as mentioned, it WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY it's not the best idea if you weren't already planning on doing it.

IF the pump is working properly and the air has been bled out from the cooler and the water inside is circulating properly then... i can only say I don't know what to say... you can test to see if it's the chip if you had another air cooler to test with. but, if you dont, then it's hard to say whether it is in fact the chip that is causing the overheating.

IF it is in fact the chip, then i'll explain alittle about the nature of the problem. ever since ivybridge, intel has gone the cheap route of using paste TIM rather then solder to conduct heat between the chip itself and the IHS (integrated heat spreader) since then, people have been delidding their chip for higher performance since the TIM they used either wasn't very good, or was poorly applied in the manufacturing process (most likely the "glue" they used to glue the IHS onto the chip was too thick causing a large gap between the IHS and the chip itself. TIM works best when there is VERY LITTLE gap between the chip and the IHS and if the glue increased the gap by 2/10 of a millimeter (that's a "large gap" as far as TIM is concerned btw ) it will affect the overall cooling performance of the system because the TIM is working overtime due to the additional gap introduced by the glue.

another thing that is of a lesser issue is maybe the chip needs lapping. here is a vid on how to check if the chip needs lapping



same problem as the delidding issue except it's between the IHS and the heatsink side rather then the IHS and the CPU side.

just remember, these are considered "destructive" mods to the chip which will void your warranty. if you are sure the problem is from the chip, then you may want to RMA it instead of doing these mods to the chip.
post #13 of 21
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I think i might see how much tighter i can make my mounting screws. At the moment, they're not all the way tight, still can be turned. If i turn them more, my pc sometimes won't boot. Sometimes they work for months and then stop booting. I'll see what I can do without modding.
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post #14 of 21
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I think i might see how much tighter i can make my mounting screws. At the moment, they're not all the way tight, still can be turned. If i turn them more, my pc sometimes won't boot. Sometimes they work for months and then stop booting. I'll see what I can do without modding.

You shouldn't need to crank down on the socket, just finger tight. Too much can cause damage.
post #15 of 21
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Just an update. I tightened my mounting screws down a bit more. They were left a little less than finger tight and now after 5 mins of Aida, max temp is 84C biggrin.gif
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post #16 of 21
I used to own a LIAN LI PC-A05B ATX Mid Tower Case and it was nice because the power supply was located near the front so no heat from it was getting into the rest of the case. would immediately get pushed out of the front with air holes along the front sides. was a great case sad to let it go.
post #17 of 21
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Just an update. I tightened my mounting screws down a bit more. They were left a little less than finger tight and now after 5 mins of Aida, max temp is 84C biggrin.gif

it's better then what you had, but still not great temps considering you have a 240mm rad system. not sure if this would help, but you may want to consider maybe changing the TIM to something else to see if it will perform better.
post #18 of 21
I know it sounds dumb, but are you sure you have the mounting kit installed properly? I only ask because you should be able to tight all of the mounting kit screws and nuts very snugly .. Screws should be able to be tightened tighter than you can do them with only your fingers.
post #19 of 21
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I'm pretty sure I installed it correctly. I did it reading the manual each time I need to remount. I've tightened the screws down to the point where I can't turn them with a screwdriver with the tip of my fingers.
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post #20 of 21
I've installed literally hundreds of coolers and there are a couple of times I'm had brain farts and made totally idiotic mistakes. When you have the time maybe take it completely off and re-install it. Don't use too much TIM. A dob the size of a cooked grain of rice is usually plenty.
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