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What CPU cooler are you using?

Currently I'm using the Cryorig H5. 180 watt cpu cooler.
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Perhaps I have a dud on a 8320e?
No.

I would blame the processor last of all possibilities.

I have had an 8320E and an 8370E and have seen almost no difference between the two in performance. The 8320E was lapped and the 8370 is not but it's on a water loop. Still, the same amount of vcore, RAM speed, and all that seems to apply.
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What CPU cooler are you using?
the cooler wouldn't dictate the voltage anyway...it should need anything like that even the piggiest of non e chips in the 83xx forum doesn't need that much even on lesser boards something isn't right...
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the cooler wouldn't dictate the voltage anyway...it should need anything like that even the piggiest of non e chips in the 83xx forum doesn't need that much even on lesser boards something isn't right...

Especially since the 990FX Killer is allowing me to OC the exact same chips at much lower vcore.
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That H5 is better than a 212 but not much. It should probably get you to 4.6 or so.

You have tried your luck with Gigabyte........... The Asrock seems to be doing ok, but they seem to have a short life span when OCed. The current MSI boards are unsafe beyond 4.6 unless cssorkinman is getting better results out of the one he is testing.

Then there is ASUS. The more you spend there the higher your OC.
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That H5 is better than a 212 but not much. It should probably get you to 4.6 or so.

You have tried your luck with Gigabyte........... The Asrock seems to be doing ok, but they seem to have a short life span when OCed. The current MSI boards are unsafe beyond 4.6 unless cssorkinman is getting better results out of the one he is testing.

Then there is ASUS. The more you spend there the higher your OC.

The H5 is like you said, a bit better than a 212. I'm at 4.6 with a 6300 and it's got a bit more room.

The Gigabyte board I have on hand is the 990FXA UD3 rev 4.1. It has all of the right stuff and is built very well. Sadly the vcore necessary to stabilize the same clocks with the same chip compared to the 990 Killer Asrock is insanely high. Plus the NB chip on the Killer is toasty and will require active cooling if I intend on keeping it.

Asus overall from my personal experience is the better board manufacture for both parties. Maybe not the best bang for the buck, but ability and function have won me over numerous times.
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The H5 is like you said, a bit better than a 212. I'm at 4.6 with a 6300 and it's got a bit more room.

The Gigabyte board I have on hand is the 990FXA UD3 rev 4.1. It has all of the right stuff and is built very well. Sadly the vcore necessary to stabilize the same clocks with the same chip compared to the 990 Killer Asrock is insanely high. Plus the NB chip on the Killer is toasty and will require active cooling if I intend on keeping it.

Asus overall from my personal experience is the better board manufacture for both parties. Maybe not the best bang for the buck, but ability and function have won me over numerous times.
perhaps you hit a faulty board I've ran the killer board for nearly 2 years now at 4.6 1.46v but it needs front and back cooling on vrm front and offset socket and vrm rear...it's alright for mud range overclock if you keep the vrm and socket temp down...for informations sake it's running the phdx12 phanteks cooler and stays below 60 at all times even when it's gets dusty and needs cleaning as that case has zero filters
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the cooler wouldn't dictate the voltage anyway...it should need anything like that even the piggiest of non e chips in the 83xx forum doesn't need that much even on lesser boards something isn't right...
Cooling does dictate voltage to a significant degree. Hotter parts need more voltage to remain stable. That, in turn, creates more heat which, in turn, increases the voltage required. biggrin.gif

Also, The Stilt said the E chips use more voltage, not less, because they have less leakage. The difference is that they should be able to tolerate more voltage than the leaky chips (e.g. 9350).
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Heat increased resistance increasing temp and lowering voltage. So yea lower temp always help
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Cooling does dictate voltage to a significant degree. Hotter parts need more voltage to remain stable. That, in turn, creates more heat which, in turn, increases the voltage required. biggrin.gif

Also, The Stilt said the E chips use more voltage, not less, because they have less leakage. The difference is that they should be able to tolerate more voltage than the leaky chips (e.g. 9350).
at lower clocks they use much less voltage than their non e counterparts...they are low leakage which is why they require more voltage the higher the clockspeed gets...but the process gets better refined every run it seems for these e chips we are seeing a lot more e chips scaling better past 4.6...some guys are running 5.0 stable at 1.5ish...I was one of the unlucky ones who got an e chip that's a piggy past 4.6...from 1.41v@4.6 to 1.524v@4.8 both of these are ibt very high and max stable 40 runs and prime blend and small ftfs 12 hours each...there's no way you could possibly think his cooler is causing him to need that much more voltage to become stable that's just silly...the difference between a warm running chip and a cool one in voltage terms is negligible...if it was running at the ragged edges near or even over 70 it would be a valid point but it's not even close
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