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That sucks, but I still don't feel that damns the board for all time. wink.gif
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That sucks, but I still don't feel that damns the board for all time. wink.gif

Personally, if i wanted to overclock up to 4.5Ghz and there wasn't anything else at that price, i would consider it. Beyond 4.5 i wouldn't buy it, because like all Asrock 970s, it overheats a lot in the socket. And heat is never good. The heat of the socket, just like the one of the VRM influence one another, because they can spread through the copper layer. The preoccupying with this motherboard, is that in Newegg there is a pattern with early deaths. Agent Smith also had the incident in about 7 months if memory serves me. Of course, the direct competitor is MSI Gaming, which sports Nikos mosfets (although power paks), so this isn't ideal either. Between the two, i really don't know what i 'd choose. I mean, i 'd rather spend something more and get some ASUS, if i wanted to go above 4.5.
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I agree. Red/black motif + cheap=ASRock board, but I'm a believer in the UD3P for all other instances of needing a cheap am3+ mobo.
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I agree. Red/black motif + cheap=ASRock board, but I'm a believer in the UD3P for all other instances of needing a cheap am3+ mobo.

Yeah, colour patterns are good, but being practical is better. For its money the UD3P is unbeatable. Even if the rev2.0, from the few accounts we 've seen seems a bit nerfed down in overclockability/temps, for the money it's still the best.

If you want red+black on 970, there is only this Asrock and MSI 970 Gaming, which honestly, i don't think their VRM section is better than the UD3P... Or rather, the ASrock's VRM may be better on paper, but if it blows up, it doesn't help much.

The UD3P has actually a standard behaviour opposite of the Asrock. The CPU socket temp when you overclock, is like 1C above core temp. So it doesn't overheat in the socket. Of course you may need VRM fan there too. With the Asrock, you have a CPU socket temp that goes like +15C compared to core plus the need for VRM fan. The MSI gaming is 6+2 phase with Nikos mosfets, so this isn't inspiring trust compared to the others.
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Red black aesthetics or not the end of the world, I can live without them. I'm just afraid to go to ud3p with all the horrible experience I've had with revision 2.0
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Red black aesthetics or not the end of the world, I can live without them. I'm just afraid to go to ud3p with all the horrible experience I've had with revision 2.0

I really don't know what to tell you... In the last days, there have been 2 users that got UD3P rev2. It seems that there is something different compared to rev1 (my suspicion is better features, but somewhat nerfed overclocking), but they both overclocked at least to 4.4. One is bonami, who has an active thread with other problems and another i don't remember the name.

So, at least as far as overclocking goes, i think you may have had multiple bad motherboards. I had also checked the british amazon, where again some overclocked beyond turbo on the rev2.

Beyond that, i don't know what new BIOS quirks they may have introduced in rev2. The rev 1.0, i must say that after the beta BIOS, runs better than ever...

If you don't want clocks past 4.5, i think either the Asrock performance mentioned or the MSI Gaming, should do. Beyond that, i wouldn't trust their VRM quality to be honest, but i am conservative, because i don't like frying CPUs.

You could also consider the ASUS M5A7 EVO 2.0 (6+2 phase, but i trust they don't use Nikos like the MSI gaming) , if you don't mind stopping at 4.5 and not having black and red. Or go for a really good quality, like the Sabertooth for more $.
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Red black aesthetics or not the end of the world, I can live without them. I'm just afraid to go to ud3p with all the horrible experience I've had with revision 2.0

I have a ud3p rev 4.0 im looking to sell if you are interested. thumb.gif
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Ayup. These days it looks like ASUS or just keep the clocks below 4.7.
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Ayup. These days it looks like ASUS or just keep the clocks below 4.7.

Yes, the motherboard market for AM3+ is stagnant and quality wise, it's not getting any better. ASUS has pretty much abbandoned it. Gigabyte simply keeps producing more and more revisions of the old boards, as usual, but it doesn't seem they get better in overclocking. MSI and Asrock tried to fill an intermediate market with the 970 Gaming and Performance respectively, but they both give new features, but none of them really has quality VRM. Asrock also put the only mATX board with 970 chipset and apparently to cut costs, put brandless mosfets on it.

So, it's really a pretty bleak picture for overclockers.
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I really don't know what to tell you... In the last days, there have been 2 users that got UD3P rev2. It seems that there is something different compared to rev1 (my suspicion is better features, but somewhat nerfed overclocking), but they both overclocked at least to 4.4. One is bonami, who has an active thread with other problems and another i don't remember the name.

So, at least as far as overclocking goes, i think you may have had multiple bad motherboards. I had also checked the british amazon, where again some overclocked beyond turbo on the rev2.

Beyond that, i don't know what new BIOS quirks they may have introduced in rev2. The rev 1.0, i must say that after the beta BIOS, runs better than ever...

If you don't want clocks past 4.5, i think either the Asrock performance mentioned or the MSI Gaming, should do. Beyond that, i wouldn't trust their VRM quality to be honest, but i am conservative, because i don't like frying CPUs.

You could also consider the ASUS M5A7 EVO 2.0 (6+2 phase, but i trust they don't use Nikos like the MSI gaming) , if you don't mind stopping at 4.5 and not having black and red. Or go for a really good quality, like the Sabertooth for more $.

I have to admit, you do have me a little concerned now. I recently purchased a MSI 970 Gaming to replace the Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 board that was getting very flaky. Now, I am using it at work so I am not really overclocking my FX 8350 that i have in it. That and, my chip has weak cores in 7 and 8 that makes it not overclock beyond 4.4GHz anyways. The only reason I am now concerned is your insistence that the Niko Mosfets on this board will fail probably even at stock clocks in short order. Oh well, if it happens, I will just upgrade to a 5820k sooner than I planned on. (Upgraded to a 6700K at home.)

Now the socket temps on this MSI board are far better than the Asrock board it replaced. Since I am not overclocking, should I really be all that concerned? The computer runs 24/7 in a cool environment if that helps.
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