Originally Posted by xKrNMBoYx
No need to get POed. We just have different opinions.
$75 for a piece of metal and 1 or 2 fans is expensive to me, especially if there are any sort of fit problems with other components
Twin tower coolers are 'massive' in size for me and have yet to see small ones. That said a small one would not cool a high clocked Vishera 8 core.
When I think of people wanting to get 9590 I generally take it they want to run 5GHz somewhat safely. Otherwise why not get a cheaper 8 Core for 4.7GHz. Like you said it's fine at stock, but when OCed it gets 'touchy'. You even said its better for going water with a 9590.
I know perfectly well your accomplishment with cooling big clocked 8-cores with air. But I do not have the confidence in others to have the same ability. OCN has a good group of people who know the characteristics of the chips. Other sites and forums I look through know zip in general, especially toms...There are way more threads with people who asks if they can pair a 9590 with a mediocre motherboard or thin 120mm So I or a CM 212 than can I run it on twin tower heatsinks.
PS just to get things straight, I think water cooling and especially AiOs are expensive as he'll too (except for cooling GPUs)
I wasn't PO'd. That is one of my favorite sayings and every once in a while I forget that it isn't allowed here.
The 9590 is spikey and water handles those spikes better than air. At least big water does.The 8xxx are smoother and depending on overall air flow do not need water cooling. Or maybe I just got lucky with my wind tunnel.