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Originally Posted by Ithanul View Post

I don't see this car being able to handle a roundabout. If it can, than darn the software on it must be nuts if it able to pull that stunt off.

Spent two weeks in Britain. Highway roundabouts are scary as hell. Talk about having a heartattack at times. Plus the driving on the other side don't help either. And here I thought San Fran and San Diego traffic was bad during rush hour.

Hmmm, interesting that it can pick up on smaller objects like bicycles and cones. Though, wonder how it would react to a motorcycle lane splitting though at 45mph+ . tongue.gif

Be interesting see if it could survive the Dothan Ross Clark Circle, think a wreak happens at least once or twice a day on that bugger. And they expanding that crazy thing to six lanes. Bad enough with four lanes at 50mph with center turn lanes, small roads coming into it, and a butt ton turn offs with no side merge to get out of traffic.

Well from what I hear it's not been the main cause of the accidents it's been in but could that also mean that because of it other cars have had accidents? Not every instance of a rear-end collision is the person behind at fault but the law treats them as always the problem.

I too would like to know, being a 'biker' I would imagine I'd be safe, a computer is predictable and always adheres to it's programming but being something new I'm skeptical. redface.gif
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Not every instance of a rear-end collision is the person behind at fault but the law treats them as always the problem.
Theoretically, they are. You're supposed to keep a certain distance between your vehicle and the one right in front of yours with which you can either come to a complete stop or reduce to a speed that allows you to maneuver safely without colliding.
    
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Heck, I remember it breaking $4+ for a while during Summer a year or two back (Boy, where electric bicycles getting good sells that year). Talk about no fun. My rent was bad enough considering it did not include the electric bill either. I give one thing about returning home to the South. Food, movies, gas, living, etc. whole lot cheaper. Just Internet availability sucks major. tongue.gif Plus, got to deal with the occasional hurricane.

But yeah, California cost of living is nuts.

I don't like hurricanes. I don't mind earthquakes. It takes a relatively close 4.0 to even wake me up. lol As for our internet here? It sucks. Most of the Bay Area still doesn't have fiber. Comcast is what we're stuck with unless you live in Morgan Hill or Danville and are one of the lucky few who can actually get FIOS.


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So do you like living there or you don't? tongue.gif

I'm from Chicago, I can already deal with $3 gas. My Civic says "no sweat" biggrin.gif My mind is already on California being better for me than Chicago, so don't you dare try to change it tongue.gif Software jobs over there have much higher base salaries than anywhere else in the US to reflect higher COL. However I will not want to live in San Francisco proper if I want a large home. Just enjoy being close to cool tech companies, that's where I'd want to be. The only lucrative software jobs in Chicago are in.. finance... meh.

I love the weather here. My worry is that sometime in the near future the utility/water bill is going to be more expensive than PG&E. If there's a couple more years of drought, rolling water outages? lol It's kinda not funny though, there's no idea how long drought can last. It could be over in a month, it could last decades or even a century or longer. California is not prepared for long term drought considering we've already been in one for over half a decade now-ish. I'm due for a change anyway. I've already explored most of the stuff worth exploring... I've ridden most of the local bike trails this side of Skyline... and a fair bit on the other side as well.

Yeah, I like it here but it's not the same anymore... most of the charm of small town Mtn View has already been paved over and corporately remodeled. It used to be a nice, inexpensive hick town that nobody ever heard of. Now it's practically the world capital. Prices haven't even started to peak yet, which is the scary thing. And much of the charm of working for Silicon Valley startups is gone.

In San Francisco, what was it... $1300 a month gets you a bunk bed? lol I like the city but I couldn't live there. Wage disparity keeps getting worse and worse. Drive behind the building Twitter owns. They get really expensive meals catered there all the time... then walk around back and see all the homeless people crapping out in the open.

FWIW, I have been preparing to move OUT for a while now.
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OH! Heres a quetion.

In 2013 the US banned the 'smart' car in the US citing that it was too small and dangerous to be on the roads, how did Google get around this? Is it a case of it being an american company therefore they were able to ?
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how did Google get around this?
They made it smarter than a smart car.

Also, the fact that it's important technological innovation that will help people in need of such a thing in the near future probably helped, as well.
    
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Roundabouts are easy - especially as you only really have to give way in one direction. 4 way stops are harder in terms of decision making - who got there first, who is to the right most, who is turning left, who is going to totally ignore the stop sign....

Interestingly there are significantly fewer fatalities per mile driven in the UK than there are in the US, 4.3 to 7.6 fatalities per billion km respectively (source).

Not just that, but these computer driven cars don't "Freak out" if they miss a turn. Just stay in the lane its in and reroute when appropriate. Unlike idiots who stop on the highway so they can move over 3 lanes to their exit...when the next 3 exits are for the same area.
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I would love this for my everyday commute but I still love driving and I don't ever want that taken away from me.

The one thing I like about taking the bus somewhere is I can fire up my iPad and read an e-book or watch a TV show or movie. Being able to have my own personal self-driving vehicle would be the best of both worlds. biggrin.gif
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Theren lies the problem though. Communication between vehicles implies a network of some kind and that opens the door to malicious attacks. I for one, do NOT want so see cars communicate (as beneficial as that would be - and there would be BIG benefits to that) because of the social malcontents that would do their best to create havoc frown.gif

You wouldn't necessarily need to have active communication and networking, just a normal passive feedback loop that works off of something like low-power radar and has a simple "rule" to keep X feet behind the car in front and Y feet away from cars on either side. As for cars behind you, that might be a bit tougher but a rule to keep Z feet ahead isn't impossible.

This kind of mechanism has been in principle possible since the 1950s in an analog control system with the driver steering the vehicle and leaving the speed up to the automated system.
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I'd imagine there's going to be a lot of accidents due to people seeing a car with no driver. Especially when an older person looks over and sees no one, they'll probably freak out and call 911 or something.... or keep staring and smash into another car. rolleyes.gif
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Anything can be hacked. Let's see how long this lasts when they actually hit the roads in mass. thumb.gif
    
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I'd imagine there's going to be a lot of accidents due to people seeing a car with no driver. Especially when an older person looks over and sees no one, they'll probably freak out and call 911 or something.... or keep staring and smash into another car. rolleyes.gif

lmao... never thought of this... sadly it is true... Americans especially, the IQ has gone downhill for my peers over the years.
    
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