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Yeah, I like it here but it's not the same anymore... most of the charm of small town Mtn View has already been paved over and corporately remodeled. It used to be a nice, inexpensive hick town that nobody ever heard of. Now it's practically the world capital. Prices haven't even started to peak yet, which is the scary thing. And much of the charm of working for Silicon Valley startups is gone.

In San Francisco, what was it... $1300 a month gets you a bunk bed? lol I like the city but I couldn't live there. Wage disparity keeps getting worse and worse. Drive behind the building Twitter owns. They get really expensive meals catered there all the time... then walk around back and see all the homeless people crapping out in the open.

Then you won't like downtown Chicago much more. It's even more corporate-y, feels more buttoned up than the offices at SV companies. They are many startups in Chicago that offer more ideal working conditions, but I don't want to work for another company where I have to worry more about if the company will exist next year. I want to work for a larger company that does work in fields I find interesting, and finance/stocks isn't something I want to be a part of.

I never worked at SV so for me I cannot notice a loss of charm if I wasn't there for the original charm to begin with. The grass looks greener from my own perspective, and that's the perspective I am judging the bay area from.
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I don't like hurricanes. I don't mind earthquakes. It takes a relatively close 4.0 to even wake me up. lol As for our internet here? It sucks. Most of the Bay Area still doesn't have fiber. Comcast is what we're stuck with unless you live in Morgan Hill or Danville and are one of the lucky few who can actually get FIOS.

At least you got Comcast. Deal with the only options being dail-up or satellite. $86 monthly bill and 20GB hard cap is no fun.

Still it probably going to be a long time before something like this car ever shows up in huge quantity on the road. Though, I could see this being very useful for older folks who no longer can legally drive because of bad eye sight or disabilities.
     
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Then you won't like downtown Chicago much more. It's even more corporate-y, feels more buttoned up than the offices at SV companies. They are many startups in Chicago that offer more ideal working conditions, but I don't want to work for another company where I have to worry more about if the company will exist next year. I want to work for a larger company that does work in fields I find interesting, and finance/stocks isn't something I want to be a part of.

I never worked at SV so for me I cannot notice a loss of charm if I wasn't there for the original charm to begin with. The grass looks greener from my own perspective, and that's the perspective I am judging the bay area from.

Oh, not trying to disparage you about this place. Despite all the issues I mentioned, it's still really nice here. There's a lot to do.

And yeah, I wouldn't want to compare the Bay Area to Chicago. Lots of Bay Area people have left for like... Denver and Texas for tech jobs.


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At least you got Comcast. Deal with the only options being dail-up or satellite. $86 monthly bill and 20GB hard cap is no fun.

Still it probably going to be a long time before something like this car ever shows up in huge quantity on the road. Though, I could see this being very useful for older folks who no longer can legally drive because of bad eye sight or disabilities.

Yeah, you probably won't see them outside of metro areas for a while... though I imagine they will be popular at airports and yeah, old folks who used to rely on Outreach would have a bit more freedom.
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I have to laugh at the people in this thread that think they're somehow better drivers then a computer could be. "Lets see them handle roundabouts!" ... you really think that a self driving car will have issues with roundabouts simply because you find them confusing and difficult? People are largely oblivious to the fact that most of you are freaking terrible. Simply awful at driving. It's like ya'll can't imagine a self driving car being a safe and efficient driver just because you aren't.

And OMG! HACKERS! Like there aren't malcontents now who cause problems. No once there are more self driving cars the malcontent lawbreakers will come out of the woodwork and commit serious road crimes for the giggles. All throught the power of HACKORZ!

Once again people; All these self driving cars need to be, is better then human drivers. Which isn't a very high hurdle to clear.
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Due to public hypersensitivity, there will probably be a point when self-driving cars will be mandatory in some fashion, or manually driven cars restricted.
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Can you wear a virtual reality headset to simulate a real driving experience with in this car?

On a more serious note, "you can't have people driving a 2-ton death machine", however, guns are still O.K. :thumbsup:

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/03/17/musk-someday-driving-a-car-will-be-illegal.html
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I think people will still drive cars for sport and recreation, from people that love tinkering with their cars especially.

There will probably be some set of laws similar to red flag laws, to ease the transition and accommodate for two different types of vehicles, as it was when cars were new and a lot of people still rode on carriages.
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When self-driving becomes mainstream, sadly regular manual driving will become illegal.
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When self-driving becomes mainstream, sadly regular manual driving will become illegal.

Absolutely. Just like riding a horse has become illegal.
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Absolutely. Just like riding a horse has become illegal.

I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure it is illegal to ride horses on roads. I've certainly never seen anyone riding a horse down the freeway.

Once a certain critical mass of users hits then I expect it will become illegal to self drive on taxpayer funded roads. The 99% of the people who are in autonomous cars won't be willing to have their lives put in danger by the 1% who want to drive themselves. The efficiencies that will come with autonomous vehicles will need 100% adoption as well to really come into their own. Things like autonomous cars driving at 200kph down a highway won't be possible if there are manual drivers mixed into the traffic. We won't be able to do away with traffic lights and have road lanes that automatically change direction with changing traffic patterns if there are still manual drivers on the road.

I expect insurance costs will be the main driving force for adoption, but that it will remain legal to manually drive for a good long while until adoption reaches some critical mass, at which point it will become illegal to self drive on taxpayer funded roads.

At that point people will be able to go to a track to self drive. Similarly to how people now have to ride their horses off the roadways.
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