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My personal preference is Lian-Li. I like the quality and minimalism.
they are pricey, but amazing. I've had my Lian Li full tower going on 5 years now.
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I think you should go with Intel (with AMD GPU). FX series are great, especially as a budget option but for longevity reasons, Skylake would be a better choice.
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they are pricey, but amazing. I've had my Lian Li full tower going on 5 years now.
Have they upgraded to 140mm exhaust fans? The thing I never liked about the brand is how basic their cooling tended to be for the price. Maybe that has changed, though.
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No. Its pretty common knowledge if you are using a closed loop cooler you need some kind of active cooling on the mosfet heatsink.
No kidding. I'm the one who even suggested getting that EK block for the VRM sink and the northbridge. I have no idea how you got the idea that I was suggesting not cooling the VRMs with fans (or water, which is even better).
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Especially with a hefty overclock. A good dual radiator aircooler like a NH-D14 or a Phanteks PH-TC14PE will give you plenty of residual airflow over the chipset etc... Especially if you drop the back fan down as they are designed to do.
I'd like to see how effective this is with my UD3P and a DH14, without resorting to a super high RPM fan. If the cooler, plus fan, is that skinny then I'll be surprised.
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An AIO does nothing except cool your cpu obviously.
Yes, obviously.
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The UD3P will not go past 4.8 no matter what you do, will it? Most people get that with twin tower air anyway. With a better motherboard higher clocks are possible. Also, with a D14/15, Phantek 140, and Silverstone HE01 it is possible to lower the center fan so 1/4th of its air is blowing directly on the VRMs. That is more air than little spot fans move.
I would be very interested to see how much space there is for a fan with a cooler like the D14 with that motherboard. I cut off the back panel of my case to wedge in a 140mm fan and it didn't cut the mustard. The only thing that has is having the stock CPU fan that came with the 8320E wedged in so that it is blowing through (not on top blowing down) the sink. Of course, my Zalman heatsink gets in the way so I can't have it fully parallel.

Not only is space an issue, blowing the hot air from the CPU onto the VRMs seems like it would require even higher RPMs. So, it may be possible but it may be pretty noisy. It's probably true that higher-end motherboards like the Sabertooth are a lot easier to get under control with a big air cooler because of a better-quality VRM setup and heatsink so your suggestion of lowering the fan likely works well in that circumstance.
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The Swiftech is the only AIO to get. The others aren't worth the money.
I've seen at least one review that gave the Water Extreme 3 good results for cooling with less noise than most AIOs. The Swiftech is also known for excellent noise/cooling ratio, for an AIO. AIOs aren't as nice as custom loops but they're definitely cheaper. Of course there are always better products if one is willing to pay more.

As for 4.8 GHz on the UD3P… I’m heat limited so I can only tell you that I was able to run Cinebench at 5.1 with one core and at 5 with one core per module. My cooler would need a high-RPM fan or two and I’d have to do something about the VRMs to get more than 4.5 with Prime-quality reliability. When I had a higher-RPM ball bearing fan inside the cooler I was able to do Cinebench at 4.7 with the chip fully-enabled at 62C ambient with the case open but the temps were too high.

From what I’ve seen, 4.8 isn’t really “only” with a $50 motherboard on air. I bet under water (including the VRMs) the board would get to 5.
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The closed loop coolers are garbage imho. It makes me ill when people say that their computers are "water cooled". It is an insult to people who build real waterloops.
Not everyone has the budget to get a custom loop. It makes me more ill when people suggest paltry 120mm fan single tower coolers for overclocking the FX. Sure, one can put a Delta fan on those…
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Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Lowering the center fan brings cool air under the radiator directly onto the VRMs, and it does make a difference.
My current setup. The center fan is lowered and the rear fan is actually raised slightly to clear the usb boxes of the I/O ports.

How low can you go?

Removing the I/O panel really makes a difference. You would be surprised at how much air blows through there. Mounting the stock cooler fan on the back of the motherboard works wonders they say.
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I really appreciate all this input everyone smile.gif. I think I'll have about 1500$ to play around with on a build and man you all have me with some ideas lol I'm ready.
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I really appreciate all this input everyone smile.gif. I think I'll have about 1500$ to play around with on a build and man you all have me with some ideas lol I'm ready.

Cool. Let us know your final component list. thumb.gif
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