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Overclocking kills cards without having to increase voltage? Lol

Theoretically, yes. Practically...Ehhhhh, maybe.

Technically, you could impose a draw that doesn't exist which, could, eventually kill a card.

This is actually the very reason the 9800 GX2's failed.

I imagine, we've gotten to the point of where such mistakes, are no longer made but, realistically all it takes is someone fat-fingering an extra 0...
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I just played the ironic defence. Don't get riled so much, or else I get infractions due to your Westerner Correspondence Bias. Trust me, I know better not to fall into these zero-sum games(I'm Easterner, remember?). I mean I hope you at least know better than one-upping the next man or else fortune save me from those with no situational read.

I have no idea what you were trying to threaten with. Since you have no idea who or where I am from Mr. Eastener, all I can say is : Please rolleyes.gif
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In today's cards, at least some of them, have basic lower power usage than how much the card can actually get. Especially on the higher end of the list.
GPU manufacturers are inflating their chests with their cards performance with overclock as well (Nvidia more than AMD).

With the current heat target or power target they moved from just pain +voltage, the cards can increase voltage on their own according to internal stability.
So basically, there is extra voltage, at least to some degree.

But, if you way push the card out of stability, without increasing voltage, unstable card can die eventually. But as long as it is stable, the chances of the card just dying, decreases.
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post #104 of 165
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In today's cards, at least some of them, have basic lower power usage than how much the card can actually get. Especially on the higher end of the list.
GPU manufacturers are inflating their chests with their cards performance with overclock as well (Nvidia more than AMD).

With the current heat target or power target they moved from just pain +voltage, the cards can increase voltage on their own according to internal stability.
So basically, there is extra voltage, at least to some degree.

But, if you way push the card out of stability, without increasing voltage, unstable card can die eventually. But as long as it is stable, the chances of the card just dying, decreases.
GDDR5 VRAM actually heats up quite fast and also by a lot. HD5770 had this weird bug in one MSI:AF version in which the core temperature monitoring would actually report some memory diode. The slope would jump by +20C almost instantaneously when 3D clocks were initiated.
I assume it is much more likely that a peripheral component will fail prior to the core, so I wouldn't bet on my luck looking at the temperature measurements.
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GDDR5 VRAM actually heats up quite fast and also by a lot. HD5770 had this weird bug in one MSI:AF version in which the core temperature monitoring would actually report some memory diode. The slope would jump by +20C almost instantaneously when 3D clocks were initiated.
I assume it is much more likely that a peripheral component will fail prior to the core, so I wouldn't bet on my luck looking at the temperature measurements.

I don't know if a weird bug on an aftermarket design card from 6 years ago, would creep into all the GPUs in all manufacturers, in all cards designs.

If you look at the thermal imaging done by guru3d for example and other sites, you can see that the some of the aftermarket cooling can keep thermal extremely low even in air. On core, memory and VRMs or capacitors.
As long as you keep the card volts in-spec and don't over-volt it, where the card should run, and temps are low, and core and memory are stable, there are no issues.

There are enough people on OCN who don't "kill" their GPUs with good OC at 24/7 to know claiming any card will 100% fail and die, is just rubbish.
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That dude defending the 390X CF sounds like he/she is jelly. Come on dude, everyone knows how power hungry and hot those 390X cards are. They are not worth me having to turn my air on in the fall/winter. I guess you also don't see that AMD is just ripping you off with last years card just overclocked........
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Atleast the core changed from 700 to 900.... No ones perfect and AMD is far from it.
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post #108 of 165
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390X being $100 cheaper than 980 and still trading blows with it, who is ripping off who? wink.gif

Titan-X 1% more powerful than 980TI at $400 more pricepoint, who is ripping off who? rolleyes.gif

Every AMD low-end to mid-end card outperforming or trading blows with more expensive NVIDIA cards, who is ripping off who? rolleyes.gif

NVIDIA claims ASYNC support on the BOX, who is ripping off who? rolleyes.gif

NVIDIA lies about 4 GB on 970, who is ripping off who? rolleyes.gif

Don't let me get started with G-SYNC, LOL rolleyes.gif

There's a price to pay if you're not interested in putting garbage in your build. Amd is a dumpster fire and will never get a penny from me. If thats me getting ripped off so be it.
 
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There's a price to pay if you're not interested in putting garbage in your build. Amd is a dumpster fire and will never get a penny from me. If thats me getting ripped off so be it.
There is price to pay if you are not smart enough to do your own research. And this is exactly 970 VRAM price, Assync Compute on the 9xx series, the TitanX crap price/performance and so on. Of course people with not smarts enough, tend to spend more money to get the same performance-wise GPU as the competitor.
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Overclocking kills cards without having to increase voltage? Lol

I would think overclocking with no Voltage has no effect in the typical life of the card. Overclocking with Voltage might have effect if the card is not constructed properly. Overclocking with high voltages will probably degrade the card. If you are Under Water probably no effect even with Voltage. Never had a card or CPU break from overclocking.
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