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When this first came to light I didn't care too much personally as I use the GeForce app currently. However I think it's a crappy move and removes choice from their consumers.

Now it is known that they are going to require you to register with your email....yeah no thanks. I don't need to register everything under the sun and not every damn company needs my email for something as simple as driver updates.

GeForce was not going to be installed on my new system as it was. Guess I will torrent the newest drivers or just stick to quarterly updates. Hopefully AMD can compete with NVIDIA when Pascal is getting ready to be released.
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If there an important driver someone will upload it somewhere. But it sucks that Nvidia is limiting the new drivers this way.

But this is another push for me to go console and forget about PC gaming.
Edited by awdrifter - 10/16/15 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by awdrifter View Post

If there an important driver someone will upload it somewhere. But it sucks that Nvidia is limiting the new drivers this way.

But this is another push for me to go console and forget about PC gaming.

 

But what if GeForce Experience is deleting the installer after the installation is complete just as some people are reporting?

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My favorite driver is burned to a CD. Along with a fully updated iso of Windows with the update service disabled.

I knew the tin foil would come in handy.
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But what if GeForce Experience is deleting the installer after the installation is complete just as some people are reporting?

During the install the files have to be cached somewhere, people will just need to capture the file during the install and copy it somewhere before it finishes.
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Wow this sucks. Good Thing I'm going to stop using the Nvidia card in my gaming HTPC soon. Do not want that POS software on my PC.


Thank God AMD has yet to do this. biggrin.gif
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During the install the files have to be cached somewhere, people will just need to capture the file during the install and copy it somewhere before it finishes.

 

I was thinking about that as I asked, but what if it's not that simple? I know how this sounds, but I would think that NVIDIA has planned for the possibility that some people might want to do this and found a way to prevent it.

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Wow this sucks. Good Thing I'm going to stop using the Nvidia card in my gaming HTPC soon. Do not want that POS software on my PC.


Thank God AMD has yet to do this. biggrin.gif

 

You don't need to always have the latest driver for an HTPC though. Even the quarterly updates from the website would be more than enough. You see, this is more for people who want to always have the latest driver, who need to be updating more often than once every 3 months because they're always buying the latest video games when they come out.

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Last week I couldn't even get Geforce Experience to update to the newest driver to play Battlefront. It kept saying I had the latest driver, 353 I think it was. So I just went and downloaded 358 from the site.
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Jesus Christ, what's happening to PC gaming. between Windows 10, not being able to install my games without bloatware DRM clients, and not being able to install my GPU drivers without Nvidia bloatware, I'm almost ready to drop this platform.


You know what? Me too (Windows, not the PC platform though). Windows is getting more and more insufferable each day with Microsoft shooting its foot every other day, companies all over wanting a piece of your pie (your information) with telemetry everywhere, getting your habits and making you the guinea pig for half-finished software.

And the thing is, even after PCs get dumbed down, consolized, profiled and monetized, people will still come to the dreadful realization that all of those sacrifices were in the name of exactly nothing because consoles will still get exclusives just like before and PCs will still get crappy ports and unoptimized code. People that are selling themselves are not even getting anything in return - not that it was acceptable to sell your principles for half-baked software to begin with, but it just adds to the irony of the lose-lose situation for those that think that there is something in it for them.

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Literally 99% negative feedback on this idea everywhere it's discussed. There's no way Nvidia will blindly push forward with this. They're not deaf. *Insert Helen Keller joke*

Exactly, matches my observations too.

I mean, how stupid can this be? People buying discrete GPUs nowadays are gamers that want to play games. If you want to do office work, watch videos and even play some lighter games you don't need anything more than an Intel CPU with its built-in HD graphics. It's gotten good enough for even some triple A gaming at lower resolutions and settings.

So this is essentially hurting the gamers, people that buy physical hardware (let's not forget about this little detail ever) that need the latest drivers to play the latest games. This is a no-brainer, this is what people buy discrete GPUs for in 2015. Nvidia is essentially holding the drivers hostage until you agree to provide them with the list of your games and how you play them (telemetry data that comes with GFE) and give them your e-mail for marketing purposes.


Oh, and the implications of having to register with them are even more surreptitious than it seems besides the telemetry that I had already talked about:


http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/faq
Quote:
Q: What data does GeForce Experience send to NVIDIA?
A: The application collects data needed to recommend the correct driver update and optimal settings including hardware configuration, operating system, language, installed games, game settings, game usage, game performance, and current driver version. If a user is not signed into an NVIDIA account, this data is not personally identifiable. If a user is signed into an NVIDIA account, the data is personally identifiable. All data collected is protected by NVIDIA's privacy policy.


What is this? Nanny state? Game usage too? What next? Are they going to do as Microsoft is now doing ads in the Start menu and shove a pop-up on boot-up "because of all the telemetry gathering that is now incessantly running on your system, taking note of your every action and uploading it to our servers, that you had no choice but to give us if you want to use the piece of hardware you paid money for, we know that you have games A, B and C and play them for X amount of hours on days F, G, H, during the night, we suggest game D."?


I still don't believe how out of this world this seems. These days it just seems like a lot of companies have gone mad. This is madness and utterly anti-consumer.
Edited by tpi2007 - 10/16/15 at 4:27pm
 
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