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post #191 of 268
Another Linux win. I don’t they will have to sign upto an email account to use a PPA tongue.gif


unless .. wth.gif
post #192 of 268
This has nothing to do about lowing nvidia's cost. It all about collecting data, why else would you now be required to give them your email address to download the drivers.

At least I don't have to worry about it.

I just:
Code:
emerge -av nvidia-drivers

Done!
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Drivers with hotfixes will be separate from GFE releases, right?

 

That's how they worded it. Hmm. I wonder if I was wrong when I hoped that each quarterly update will simply be the most recent driver at that time, meaning it's identical to the one that you would also get in GeForce Experience. With as limited as my financial resources are though, I don't have to worry about needing the latest driver for new games or new video cards. Still, for those who do and who also hate GeForce Experience...


Edited by TwoCables - 10/17/15 at 6:29am
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post #194 of 268
I use shadowplay so have gfe installed anyway but I can see why people would be unhappy with this, poorly played nv mad.gif
post #195 of 268
Sorry to keep belaboring this, but since I have plenty of Nvidia GPUs at present, this is one of the things that stick in my craw… lol
If I wasn’t over invested in Nvidia GPus, I wouldn’t give a damn about how Nvidia chooses to “harvest” its customers… tongue.gif
So, here is my execution plan, if I were Nvidia:

1. Force everyone to use GeForce Experience (“GFE”) by delivering game ready drivers only through this service. This will capture and keep the current consumer enthusiasts/gamers’ install base on the Nvidia platform, thereby reducing the install base churn. RATIONALE: This is arguably the high point for Nvidia’s market share in the consumer discreet GPU segment and it started with Nvidia gaining on AMD with all its iterations of Kepler on the 28nm node along with DX11 optimizations. Convert this install base into its own proprietary eco system (the “Eco System”) now, before the rules of the game change with DX12 and new competitive GPUs from AMD. Nvidia has made a massive investment in controlling and managing performance through its software by hiring up on the software side. This software advantage may not be as relevant with the reduced cpu overhead in the DX12 realm. No doubt both Nvidia and AMD would try to manage these “free performance gains” to their advantage (through software controls), but it changes the rules of the game, nevertheless. Moreover this increases the switching pain factor way up, especially when combined when combined with other Eco System techs such as Gsync, and possibly Game works, etc.

2. Work on closely tying the driver software performance management (“Performance”) with GFE. RATIONALE: This will eventually enable constant DRM type account/license checking and ensure that any drivers run outside of GFE are non-operational eventually. This will also allow for close Performance Management of generational and inter-generational upgrade cycle from one release to another, thereby creating as many software based Performance skus , since Performance is now being controlled through GFE. It will be easier to force the install base to upgrade sooner and more often, as the install base’s Performance is being managed within the Eco System.

3. Further monetize the investments made on the software side by eventually introducing a fee based mode (“Subscription Service”). RATIONALE: Once the install base has been conditioned to accept the Eco System, there is no reason not to him them with a Subscription Service for the perceived better experience through GFE. In the meantime, ensure that there are plenty of diehard fans and marketing personnel ridiculing any dissenting voices with plenty of roll eyes emoticons….lol. After all , the consumers aren’t supposed to think why, and how tongue.gif They should just think about how harmless GFE is for them at present, never mind what plans Nvidia has for the future, or why it is being pushed upon on the install base, if it is so harmless…lol

4. Do the same on the professional gpu segment side. RATIONALE: Why not? tongue.gif

5. This tells a pretty good story to the stock market. . RATIONALE: Who else in the PC industry has the gall to sell expensive computer hardware components, along with proprietary software controls to manage Performance by forcing the consumers to buy into a locked down system just to be able to run the computer hardware optimally, never mind that’s what the consumers paid up for when they bought the computer component with a premium price in the first place… lol


TLDR: If GFE is as good and as harmless (now and in the future) as some claim, than why not let consumers decide for themselves through natural adoption of this Eco System, rather than them force them into it.
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post #196 of 268
I was not aware you could update your drivers via gfe until this thread, just tried it there. It's so much more convenient and just plain makes sense, I will be doing it this way from now on.

However I hate when options are taken away, be it microsoft, game devs or nvida. So a step in the wrong direction for most.
post #197 of 268
Some people here are a bunch of whiny babies, complaining about how much RAM GFE uses, out of curiosity I went and checked how much it used with it open. Going by this metric, I guess Chrome is bloatware too. I only have 6 tabs open, yet look at all those Chrome instances open, they're using over 1GB of RAM.

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post #198 of 268
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Some people here are a bunch of whiny babies, complaining about how much RAM GFE uses, out of curiosity I went and checked how much it used with it open. Going by this metric, I guess Chrome is bloatware too. I only have 6 tabs open, yet look at all those Chrome instances open, they're using over 1GB of RAM.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01


You are comparing something that you use out of your own volition, and something that has been forced onto you, because pancakes!
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All i can say is this :

You are comparing something that you use out of your own volition, and something that has been forced onto you, because pancakes!

Honestly, I have no idea how long I've had GFE installed as I never use it, I just wanted to see how much RAM it used, someone said it was over 600MB.

Also, I seen some really long whiny posts here, I bet it took longer to write those posts, then it would take to create a dump email address from Gmail. I have a few email addresses that are used strictly for this type of purpose.
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GFE uyses around 261MB of RAM for me while left open in the background... RAM usage there is pretty much a non issue.

Although I really don't like how this is more of a push to collect information/telemetry than to just simplify driver releases. Not cool.
Edited by NuclearPeace - 10/17/15 at 9:06am
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