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I agree with the principle of what you (tpi2007) are saying, but I wholeheartedly disagree with the comparison that some people (not referring to you, as this is a trap argument that you are likely responding to) draw between what Microsoft/Steam/Google are doing (have done) and Nvidia wants to do by only releasing timely game ready drivers as a "feature", subject to its customers locking up with Nvidia's ecosystem, rather than as an obligation to provide a service for the hardware that it sells at a premium.
Microsoft is not selling an overpriced hardware component and then trying to further strong arm its customers to monetize its ecosystem ( Not even "evil MS" has the nerve to pull this off, on the contrary it is giving away Windows 10 for free to get people to upgrade) and the same goes for other non sensical drm comparisons made by the "champions and advocates" of this move by Nvidia.

Nvidia's hardware is worthless without drivers. Now, it wants to make it a privileged feature to provide timely driver support, rather than as a matter of contract with the customer? From a legal perspective, I am sure that Nvidia has covered its behind by carving out an exception for quarterly updates (I am sure someone with a better legal mind would look into this...lol), but let's face it, who in their right mind would buy a new Nvidia gpu without expecting timely support for games that most likely are sponsored by Nvidia through Gameworks?


Nvidia's cards would be a paper weight without drivers, and Nvidia charges a premium for its cards that includes the expectation for the vendor to provide timely driver support. There is nothing in the purchase and sale contract of the card that says the customer would be required to lock into yet another trap after paying a premium for the hardware upfront.

At the end of the day, all this means is a lot shorter effective useful life of an Nvidia card relative to before. The question is what does one want to pay for a card with limited driver support (either because they don't want the ecosystem bs and bloatware, or if Nvidia decides to cut them off by further limiting this privileged "feature" (heavy sarcasm here )? Whether it happens right away, or a year or two from now, this is what the outcome will be in my opinion, and one of the primary motivations behind this move.


I am not going to subject myself to this abuse at the time of the purchase, and then again when Nvidia decides to monetize and control my performance through its proprietary ecosystem. I am quite happy not gaming at all on Nvidia cards ( or AMD cards, should AMD follow suit), and will get rid of all my Nvidia cards when this hairbrain scheme is implemented by Nvidia. I am sure others who don't have a problem with this approach by Nvidia will be fine buying my cards, or I will just get rid of them anyway.
Edited by provost - 10/19/15 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by xxdarkreap3rxx View Post

Thank goodness for serial based warranties. Nothing worse than buying a card and then having to register it within X days or get shafted on the warranty portion :/

Yeah, but I like to start my warranty when I buy it and not have it cut short just because it was made 4 months ago and sat on the shelf before purchase.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

So you don't fill out the warranty registration card?

nope, my store honors and processors my warranty based off the invoice date
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Originally Posted by akromatic View Post

nope, my store honors and processors my warranty based off the invoice date

Same. Also, shipping would be prohibitive for me to return to manufacturer and my local vendor often offers warranties longer than the manufacturer one anyway.
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Sooo... Has nvidia retracted this stupidness yet?
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^^^^^ Microsoft hasn't yet, so "no!"
post #257 of 268
The only way Nvidia would back down is if users can convince the majority of review sites to include benchmarks on the GFE free drivers. Then it might make them reconsider.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awdrifter View Post

The only way Nvidia would back down is if users can convince the majority of review sites to include benchmarks on the GFE free drivers. Then it might make them reconsider.
Then said reviewers probably wouldn't get any test cards anymore. Unless you got like 90% of the reviewers to do this this, nobody will dare it.

If anything you want all the users to rile up against this everywhere. Nvidia cannot threat them down.
Edited by Assirra - 10/19/15 at 7:28pm
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hows this work for tohse of us who like to run DDU before updating drivers?
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i've got 3gb's of garbage in my GFE directory that is driver updates.

why not fix that first nvidia before making a GFE account mandatory.

soon nvidia drivers will be freely available on torrent sites.

not to mention all the space taken up by C:\programdata\nvidia corporation\netservice.

hoarding drivers is not helpful nvidia.
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