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Pic of my Gentoo Linux desktop for those that think Linux isn't ready for the desktop. It handles my triple monitor setup better than windows.

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Eh, I gave it a try and it wasn't too bad but because it forcibly installed graphics drivers without my consent I now rolled back to 8.1, suffice to say, I like 8.1 a lot more.
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Saying it's more stable for "most people" is also a flat lie. Less headache even more so. Windows users outnumbers Linux users more than 100:1, the number of people who have never had a problem with windows in their life outnumber the total number of all linux users. On top of that, people who do move to linux are more like us, technical people that can fix things.

You hear magnitudes more problems about windows because the user base is simply that much more massive and the userbase less technically inclined. Not because desktop linux is anything special.

Commandline is not, never has been, and never will be simpler than a well made GUI. Apt-get will never be easier than simply pressing a download button and double clicking. Simply having to know the exact names of something puts them completely out of the running.

Linux is competent. Linux is powerful. Linux is not made for an End User and never has been aside from the always laughed at Ubuntu+Unity. Both have their pros and cons, and both have issues, but with personal experience on both sides of the fence for both servers and desktops/laptops, you're wrong.

You can flaunt your "experience" all day long but I can come back at it. I have none. I'm just an average guy who decided to try Linux 3-4 years ago. I'm 34. Within a week I was hooked and it made more sense, and I found it easier in every single way to do anything and everything (except gaming). To say that it isn't simpler is not true. Guis are a mess usually. Apt is perfectly simple to use and far safer than going to some random website, downloading something, then searching for why your computer is infested with all kinds of garbage. Both do have their pros and cons. But talking about either as if it simply doesn't have its place in the end user environment is just ignorant.

Considering that both of us, and this entire thread is opinion it really doesn't matter. Everyone uses what works. Linux works great for many many people. If you or whoever can't make it work, more power to you. But don't insult any of us because you can't figure it out.




*EDIT* In the end it is irrelevant. The people that tend to have the most problems with their computers, linux or windows... are people who are always messing with things and tinkering. When you leave well enough alone they both work equally well. Neither is better than the other.
Edited by Tadaen Sylvermane - 10/18/15 at 10:21am
 
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Eh, I gave it a try and it wasn't too bad but because it forcibly installed graphics drivers without my consent I now rolled back to 8.1, suffice to say, I like 8.1 a lot more.
Driver installation hasn't been forcible since release. You, basically, decided that win10 was bad based on user error.
    
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Driver installation hasn't been forcible since release. You, basically, decided that win10 was bad based on user error.
Well, I set every setting to not download updates (according to various tutorials) but it did it anyway. I don't know what's up with that.
Ex. I had 353.49 installed but then when I booted up this morning I noticed that 353.54 was installed (which I wouldn't really mind but it can't oc as well with that driver).

Not that big of a deal though, I can go back to 10 anytime. So I'll just stick with 8.1 for now.
Edited by DR4G00N - 10/18/15 at 10:50am
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One thing that amazed me was to find out how many people that know Linux from work related activities who think headless is the way Linux works and have never seen a DE/WM. As strange as it sounds I was actually surprised at how many people in a comp sci and IT department at several universities I've seen in the US are this way. Honestly, MS did a great job locking in the education indoctrination because in the US, people, even those who should know better, don't know/think that Linux can be used as a general user OS.

Yeah, sad but mostly true. I just started using Linux this year and I love it. So far I have it on a Toshiba laptop and my folder rig. So far for the laptop, I got it already setup to remote into my folder when I am away, it can see my Windows rig and easily join up in its workgroup, got Hulu and Netflix streaming working very well (straight up smoothies experience I ever seen), plus got all the codecs installed to play movies or music if I want. I still consider myself a noob with it still. Fastest install and setup I ever mess with too. Had it up and going in a hour compared to my main rig with Windows which takes almost half a day to install all those darn updates.

Now if only Photoshop, Artrage, and other art programs get support to be installed natively in Linux. I be one happy camper. Then again, last time I played with GIMP it was getting a lot more powerful in use.
 
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I'm still on 8.1 and its pestering me all the time, and ironically a standard 8.1 update just borked my whole OS and I had to re-install... The whole privacy thing is a shame because I actually like everything else about Windows 10 except for the spying. But we gotta draw a line and make a stand at some point.
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Pic of my Gentoo Linux desktop for those that think Linux isn't ready for the desktop. It handles my triple monitor setup better than windows.


can it run msi afterburner and play all my steam games? let me know when it can. thumb.gif
    
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can it run msi afterburner and play all my steam games? let me know when it can. thumb.gif
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not only that is there are plenty of windows apps that are not availble on Linux, and the Linux alternative is JUNK compared to the windows app thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
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I think it's interesting that M$$E has been programmed to detect THIS as a severe threat level trojan.

 

Its role is to uninstall windows updates and modify the hosts file to block some Windows trusted domains.

 

It's only natural MSE picks it up as a malicious tool.

   
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