Originally Posted by Tadaen Sylvermane
Maybe Pebkac was a bit harsh and I apologize for that. But the point and fact of the whole matter is that the problems are on both systems. Saying that ONLY linux has problems like this is shortsighted at best, and plain bias at worst. As mentioned above people are so indoctrinated into Windows that they don't even think about all the trouble they have with it because it's all they know. Ultimately though for most people linux is far more stable, less headaches to deal with than Windows could ever dream of being. It's just different. People don't like change. Similar to how people pitch a fit each time a new version of Windows comes out. Or in the case of the linux world, the Gnome 2 > Gnome 3 change, and lord don't bring up systemd. That will start a fight.
You must be joking. I've had Mint, Suse and Arch break during or after updating, creating serious problems forcing a reinstall. These are mostly driver related so while Linux itself isn't to blame the entire ecosystem is. Saying that Linux is less problematic is seriously hiding the many issues that Linux has. Sadly I've had to go back to Win 8.1 on my laptop because I just couldn't get it to work. Couldn't connect to Homegroup, had serious artifacts (weird looking block under the mouse cursor), drivers acting weirdly, VPN not working (sadly there is only a Windows version), etc. but I won't give up just yet. As I said, I will try passthrough when I have the time to sit down and spend a lot of time on it.
Originally Posted by KyadCK
Saying it's more stable for "most people" is also a flat lie. Less headache even more so. Windows users outnumbers Linux users more than 100:1, the number of people who have never had a problem with windows in their life outnumber the total number of all linux users. On top of that, people who do move to linux are more like us, technical people that can fix things.
You hear magnitudes more problems about windows because the user base is simply that much more massive and the userbase less technically inclined. Not because desktop linux is anything special.Commandline is not, never has been, and never will be simpler than a well made GUI. Apt-get will never be easier than simply pressing a download button and double clicking. Simply having to know the exact names of something puts them completely out of the running.
Linux is competent. Linux is powerful. Linux is not made for an End User and never has been aside from the always laughed at Ubuntu+Unity. Both have their pros and cons, and both have issues, but with personal experience on both sides of the fence for both servers and desktops/laptops, you're wrong.
Something I can't escape:
Download a Ubuntu .deb repository and try to install it.
It doesn't work because certain files need to be updated so sudo-apt update.
Update is complete, try to install the file through the GUI.
It doesn't work, off to find a command line.
Find video on Youtube that shows you how to do it. Instructions are: use sudo and drag the file into the terminal, then press enter.
Command can't be found. It worked for that guy, why doesn't it work here?
Oh, look, it's Mint 16, not 17.2. Epic fail, off we go to find 17.2 instructions.
Looking around on forums you find there are no 17.2 specific instructions as it should be universal.
Not giving up and knowing that you aren't stupid (you hope) but still hope you were imagining things, you go back to Mint and try it again.
LOLWUT? Why won't this damned .deb file work?
Maybe Linux just hates you and wants you to go back to Windows, which you do.
Another example: Teamviewer actually works properly in Windows but not in Linux. It connects to the client PC (one you wish to control), but then nothing happens on your screen as Teamviewer for some reason won't work when video drivers are installed on the PC you wish to control. Teamviewer works and if you can see the screen of the PC you are controlling you can use Teamviewer, but if you can't... have fun clicking on things that aren't there but won't disappear due to bugs.
This is a Teamviewer/GPU driver conflict but it makes a program like Teamviewer useless to me and I don't feel like having my laptop on my keyboard while I'm trying to use my PC to find a solution to the problems I'm having in Linux.
Linux will NEVER be a Windows competitor as long as installing a simple file requires the combing of forums and trying out several different command lines which don't work.
To make it clear I am slowly becoming familiar with Linux command lines but the fact that these commands differ between distro's and there being no uniformity between them all is one of the biggest problems that Linux faces (putting Linus' drama queenery aside). This doesn't mean that Windows is flawless, what MS have done with 10 is unacceptable and I am in the process of buying parts for a custom ClearOS router just to make sure all those addresses that my cheap TP-Link (will be used for WiFi only) can't block as they're too long.Edited by Liranan - 10/20/15 at 8:31pm