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Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

It's only the hapless, home users being forced to upgrade, thus far.

Well that's a flat out lie. Windows 10 is not being forced on any computer in the sense of it actually being installed on the computer. No one is forced to move from 7, 8.1, etc to 10. It's a choice.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

Well that's a flat out lie. Windows 10 is not being forced on any computer in the sense of it actually being installed on the computer. No one is forced to move from 7, 8.1, etc to 10. It's a choice.

Except the files were being downloaded to Windows ~BT without the knowledge or permission of Win7/8.1 users, and this new article implies there really isn't a good method of opting out of these increasingly aggressive prompts.

And unless you're an extremely savvy home user who really paid attention during the install of Windows, you're getting Recommended updates the same way you're getting Important updates, and all the GWX junk has been auto-installed under your nose, because most of it's listed under Recommended priority. A couple of the updates, 3083324 and 3083710, the Windows Update updates, are classified Important.
Edited by PiOfPie - 10/15/15 at 7:41pm
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I can confirm this, as my updates on my Win 8.1 tablet only gives option to upgrade to Win 10.

I have to chose important updates and there all the security updates are there to check and download, but I'm not sure if I do that it won't also start the Win 10 upgrade at the same time.

This will be confusing to most people and a jerk move by M$.

Edit 1;

Just tried to download the important updates, by checking them, and it started to download Win 10 instead (just over a 2 gig file). What the, now I can't install any further updates without Win 10 getting installed as well.

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Edit 2;

Ok, the Win 10 update was automatically checked in optional updates. After I unchecked it, I was able to just download the important security updates.

Why is M$ taking it upon themselves to check things for me? A sneaky way to take advantage of the less savvy.
Edited by Gunderman456 - 10/15/15 at 8:08pm
 
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post #44 of 256
Just a reminder, there is a script that is constantly being updated to block all Windows 10 updates, telemetry, and remove those installed.
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Originally Posted by cookieboyeli View Post

Though my script uninstalls 3075853 I actually missed the replacements! Updating script now... gunner.gif

Did you mean KB3035583 ?
Quote:
This update installs the Get Windows 10 app, which helps users understand their Windows 10 upgrade options and device readiness. For more information about Windows 10, see Windows 10.

This update applies to Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). Before you install this update, check out the Prerequisites section.

Or is 5853 some kind of separate nagware which I'm not seeing in my update list?
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Dumb and Dumber at least had ethics,

Apple, Google, Microsoft and now Nvidia, what the pzz is going on!

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post #47 of 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carniflex View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by cookieboyeli View Post

Though my script uninstalls 3075853 I actually missed the replacements! Updating script now... gunner.gif

Did you mean KB3035583 ?
Quote:
This update installs the Get Windows 10 app, which helps users understand their Windows 10 upgrade options and device readiness. For more information about Windows 10, see Windows 10.

This update applies to Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). Before you install this update, check out the Prerequisites section.

Or is 5853 some kind of separate nagware which I'm not seeing in my update list?
3075853 is correct. It is a separate update. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075853

I've just realized there has been a new version of this update every month under a new KB#. There are separate ones for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 too like 3083710 (Win7) & 3083711 (Win8). Sorry I'm taking so long to update my script... there are a LOT of updates to add. Here is the latest released list.
It's missing potentially over 10 updates. frown.gif I can't just be adding them willy-nilly either. I have to research each one and verify the claims about them... I don't want to put stuff on there that isn't needed like many of these scripts do.

Batch Uninstall & Hide Windows Updates v3.1.2

Latest uninstall list:
Code:
2976978 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2976978 - [Telemetry] [Win8/8.1] - CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
3075249 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249 - [Telemetry] [Win7SP1/8.1/Server 2008R2SP1/Server 2012R2] - Adds telemetry points to consent.exe and UAC.
3080149 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149 - [Telemetry] [Win7SP1/8.1/Server 2008R2SP1/Server 2012R2] - Updates CEIP diagnostics and telemetry match Win10.
3021917 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3021917 - [Telemetry] [Win7SP1] - CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
3022345 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3022345 - [Telemetry] [Win7SP1/8.1/Server 2012R2] Installs CEIP diagnostics and telemetry. Replaced by KB3068708.
3068708 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708 - [Telemetry] [Win7/8.1/Server 2008R2SP1/Server 2012R2] - Installs CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
2977759 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2977759 - [Telemetry] [Win7] - CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
3044374 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3044374 - [Get Win10] [Win8.1/Server 2012R2] - Enables you to upgrade to Win10.
3035583 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/8.1] - Installs Get Windows X program. Unintentionally creates UAC backdoor.
2990214 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2990214 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/Server 2008R2SP1] - Enables you to upgrade to a later version of Windows.
2952664 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1] - Ease upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.
3075853 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075853 - [Get Win10] [Win8.1/Server 2012R2] - Improvements to Windows Update Client.
3075851 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075851 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/Server 2008R2SP1] - Improvements to Windows Update Client.
3065987 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/Server 2008R2SP1] - Improvements to Windows Update Client.
3050265 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265 - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/Server 2008R2SP1] - Improvements to support upgrades to a later version of Windows.
2976987 - NO OFFICIAL MS ARTICLE     NO SOURCE AVAILABLE - [Get Win10] [Win7SP1/8.1] Update related to the 3035583 Get Windows X program.
971033  - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971033  - [Common Bug/Error/BSOD] [Win7] - Causes Windows to deactivate legitimate licences under certain circumstances.
2454826 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2454826 - [Common Bug/Error/BSOD] [Win7/Server 2008R2] - Claims to improve graphic performance, yet often causes crashes and BSODs.
2505438 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2505438 - [Common Bug/Error/BSOD] [Win7/Server 2008R2] - Claims to fix performance issues, yet often breaks fonts.
2902907 - NO OFFICIAL MS ARTICLE https://bit.ly/1MftRyG  - [Commonly Listed] [UNKNOWN] - KB2902907 Patch ID Previously used as a buggy WinXP Microsoft Security Essentials installer.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1572731/batch-uninstall-hide-windows-updates-forced-win10-telemetry/0_100
Edited by cookieboyeli - 10/15/15 at 11:27pm
post #48 of 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar View Post

Out of curiosity what is the issue? I have upgraded to windows 10 on my laptop and despite hating windows 8, don't mind the new OS at all. Now mind you I have Win 7 on my media PC and would prefer to keep it that way but it's not really a big deal.

Besides this "upgrade" being forced onto the users when no consumer should be obligated to do so, some of us have older hardware that is not compatibility with the new OS. My motherboard support ended with 7 (not that I would upgrade anyways. There is nothing wrong with 7).
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I would suffer through the data mining if they didn't insist on controlling all udpates and drivers on my machine. Especially the drivers.
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Quote:
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No annoying popups here in Windows 10! biggrin.gif

Or here in Windows 7.
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5820K @ 4.2/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.175/1.15v Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (F22n) Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti (F3P) @ 2025/1485, 1... 4x4GiB Crucial @ 2667, 12-12-12-28-T1, 1.34v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.06) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Sapphire Fury Nitro OC+ @ 1053/500, 1.225vGPU/1... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820K @ 4.2/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.175/1.15v Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (F22n) Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti (F3P) @ 2025/1485, 1... 4x4GiB Crucial @ 2667, 12-12-12-28-T1, 1.34v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.06) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Sapphire Fury Nitro OC+ @ 1053/500, 1.225vGPU/1... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
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