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Intel vs Nvidia: nobody ever remembers the time they were still at loggerheads and Intel actually neutered Nvidia's attempts to put GPUs on cheaper platforms in order to make its offering look better. :3
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Intel vs Nvidia: nobody ever remembers the time they were still at loggerheads and Intel actually neutered Nvidia's attempts to put GPUs on cheaper platforms in order to make its offering look better. :3
Look at the market share of intel gpus, its clear when you compare performance of intel gpu vs nvidia that intel have abused their market position yet again.
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Regardless of how irrelevant AMD is, they still keep nVidia and Intel prices under control. Without AMD, there is no reason Intel or nVidia can't start charging $600 for entry level processors.

You act as if the only people that buy PCs are enthusiasts who already have PCs. There's a gigantic new PC market that would be impacted

The majority of people buy OEM. The OEMs wouldn't let Intel price gouge either. You think Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc, would let Intel charge whatever without a stink?

The market would move on without Intel. They are not the only supplier of CPUs in the world. Also Government would make sure x86 licenses were handled right.

It would suck to only have one, but I strongly doubt that would happen for very long, if at all.
    
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Wow, I would have thought AMD could have stuck a better deal. Things must be worse than I guessed.
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The majority of people buy OEM. The OEMs wouldn't let Intel price gouge either. You think Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc, would let Intel charge whatever without a stink?

The market would move on without Intel. They are not the only supplier of CPUs in the world. Also Government would make sure x86 licenses were handled right.

It would suck to only have one, but I strongly doubt that would happen for very long, if at all.

The thing about having monopolies and oglioarchies is that, society very quickly ends up in those - and when it realizes that those are bad things they take a loooong time to go away.

Good thing ARM had their resurgence and isn't tied to an OS that requires X86. All it needs is a proper native devenv (and I don't mean Microsoft's abandoned attempt.)
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Look at the market share of intel gpus, its clear when you compare performance of intel gpu vs nvidia that intel have abused their market position yet again.

NVidia can totally see that should AMD fall, it would be them against Intel. They know that going up against Intel directly by using x86 chips is suicide and the fact that Intel would block their GPUs from EVER being on the same die is just more reason to branch out and go into a direction that is not direct, but somewhat parallel to Intel. Their X1 CPU is a good demonstration of this. NVidia GPU on a quad-A57 + quad-A53. It's really the best way to go about taking market share away from Intel. The increased popularity of ARM chips along with their great performance per watt makes it a no brainer to go in this direction.
 
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It would suck to only have one, but I strongly doubt that would happen for very long, if at all.

I don't know who in their right minds is going to want to pick up AMD and battle against Intel right now. The PC market as a whole has been in decline recently. Given that if Zen fails next year, AMD doesn't really have anything compelling in their portfolio to attract buyers. Take into consideration that they have no fabs and very few MAJOR contracts and it makes an acquisition even less attractive.It's essentially starting from 0 and trying to outrun a competitor who's way ahead of you.

The only buyer I can see would be Samsung. They have the cash, they have the Fabs and they sell PCs themselves already. Even then, I don't know if their interested in throwing Billions of dollars into a project to compete against Intel.
 
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NFME will purchase an 85 percent share of AMD's Penang and Suzhou operations, and serve as controlling partner for the new combined business.

Some of you need to slow down a bit and read. I get that the misleading title doesn't help, but you should know not to take headlines at face value in this day and age...

Edit: Title has been fixed. smile.gif
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Not that we can help it either.

Headlines are known to not affect just forumers. OEMs and Marketing pay attention.

This is why negative publicity is bad, and smear campaigns work bloody well. :3
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And just like that, 3 hours of no opinions after clarification was added.
    
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