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The small right side will be mostly blocked by the CPU heatsink and the bracket.
Top will be blocked by the PSU. Only a little bit will be open.


You can see here the side is being blocked and the top has little clearance to vent above the PSU.
With front intake, GPU intake, about half of right side intake, leave the mobo I/O cover off the back, and about a third of top exhaust as well as PSU intake inside of case as exhaust I think it will be fine. On the other hand the front as exhaust be work better using I/O opening in back, the right side, as intakes with GPU pulling in air through left side while using front and PSU as exhaust might work better. Would need to do a little testing to be sure what is best.
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With front intake, GPU intake, about half of right side intake, leave the mobo I/O cover off the back, and about a third of top exhaust as well as PSU intake inside of case as exhaust I think it will be fine. On the other hand the front as exhaust be work better using I/O opening in back, the right side, as intakes with GPU pulling in air through left side while using front and PSU as exhaust might work better. Would need to do a little testing to be sure what is best.

My question is, would there be a disadvantage with going blower style GPU? I'm just imagining it as, more heat is coming into my case by using an open style cooler. I am no cooling expert though so I'm not sure.
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You could change fan, but doubt that will make a big difference.
That will leave 1mm of space if went with Noctua fan. Cooler is 44mm in height plus 15mm fan.

GPU fan noise would be louder from blower and temps higher than open cooling. But will leave less heat inside case.

Doyll the right side vent and I/O is not much or enough for the GPU heat to be affect. Those areas are blocked by the PSU and cpu heatsink.
There is very little room to work or move around with in the case already. Airflow is very limited in there.
    
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This is exactly the issue. The exchange rate is not very good right now. It looks like the Cooler Master GeminII M4 is one of my only options. It should fit in this case and I can find it here. I'm not sure if this will make THAT much of a difference, but I can swap the stock fan with a Noctua NF F-12 as I'll be just under my 70 mm height restriction.
Not sure how the GeminII M4 and AXP-100 compare. Very little has been tested with fans puuling rather than pushing .. or actually monitoring actual cooler intake air temperature rather than the room temp. At a guess looking at images of GeminII M4 compared to AXP-100 the AXP-100 has more pipes and better construction so would assume it cooles better.
You can get the AXP-100 Muscle in USA delivered for $49.95 USD. So if you know someone near the boarder who could get it, than pick it up from them ...
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You could change fan, but doubt that will make a big difference.
That will leave 1mm of space if went with Noctua fan. Cooler is 44mm in height plus 15mm fan.

GPU fan noise would be louder from blower and temps higher than open cooling. But will leave less heat inside case.

Doyll the right side vent and I/O is not much or enough for the GPU heat to be affect. Those areas are blocked by the PSU and cpu heatsink.
There is very little room to work or move around with in the case already. Airflow is very limited in there.

I just like the idea of having a GPU that doesn't affect the heat of other components (AKA blower GPUs) biggrin.gif. Airflow is definitely limited in this little guy.
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Not sure how the GeminII M4 and AXP-100 compare. Very little has been tested with fans puuling rather than pushing .. or actually monitoring actual cooler intake air temperature rather than the room temp. At a guess looking at images of GeminII M4 compared to AXP-100 the AXP-100 has more pipes and better construction so would assume it cooles better.
You can get the AXP-100 Muscle in USA delivered for $49.95 USD. So if you know someone near the boarder who could get it, than pick it up from them ...

I do have family that I visit in the USA. My question is, will I be blocking any DIMM slots with this cooler and potentially the PCI-E slot? I need to make sure it is fully compatible if I am buying from the US. Again, my MB is the Asus Z170i Pro Gaming (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170I-PRO-GAMING/). The RAM I am using is around 31 mm in height.
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post #26 of 85
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My question is, would there be a disadvantage with going blower style GPU? I'm just imagining it as, more heat is coming into my case by using an open style cooler. I am no cooling expert though so I'm not sure.
Blower style GPUs are known for running hotter and making much more noise than others.

Conventional GPUs use 2x 90mm fans for a maximum possible flow of about 60cfm .. about the same as a 140mm fan in front as exhaust.
CPU cooler uses approx 50cfm. PSU removes all of that no problem.
post #27 of 85
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Blower style GPUs are known for running hotter and making much more noise than others.

Conventional GPUs use 2x 90mm fans for a maximum possible flow of about 60cfm .. about the same as a 140mm fan in front as exhaust.
CPU cooler uses approx 50cfm. PSU removes all of that no problem.

If I am going with an open air GPU, this is the one:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487079&cm_re=gtx_980-_-14-487-079-_-Product

For Blower GPU, it would be this:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487068&cm_re=gtx_980-_-14-487-079-_-Product

(They will be used as I'm not going to pay full for the GPU)
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post #28 of 85
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I do have family that I visit in the USA. My question is, will I be blocking any DIMM slots with this cooler and potentially the PCI-E slot? I need to make sure it is fully compatible if I am buying from the US. Again, my MB is the Asus Z170i Pro Gaming (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170I-PRO-GAMING/). The RAM I am using is around 31 mm in height.
Probably no problems, but I don't have access or time at the moment to to verify for sure.
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As far as ram clearance goes the review here shows that it's 26mm on the inside but 44 mm on the outside edge of cooler (at least for the CM GeminII M4). The AXP on the other hand looks like it'd be close if it overhangs in the picture with the measurements on their website here. If those are accurate hopefully that might make a determination easier. I think the GeminII M4 looks pretty close to the Big Shuriken cooler I have. Hope that maybe helps you some.
Edited by MythTFLfan29 - 10/16/15 at 5:17pm
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As far as ram clearance goes the review here shows that it's 26mm on the inside but 44 mm on the outside edge of cooler (at least for the CM GeminII M4. The AXP on the other hand looks like it'd be close if it overhangs in the picture with the measurements on their website here. If those are accurate hopefully that might make a determination easier. I think the GeminII M4 looks pretty close to the Big Shuriken cooler I have. Hope that maybe helps you some.

Thanks! I was looking at another Asus MB (Asus p8z77-i Deluxe) which has a similar layout (at least it looks like it in the pictures) to the MB I want to get (Asus z170i pro gaming) and there are people who reported that the M4 fits in the Z77 board so I assume it will fit in my Z170 board without hitting the PCI-E slot or ram. I think I will opt for the GeminII M4 and save the hassle of buying from the US as these are available here. thumb.gif
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