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post #71 of 85
Corsair LPX and AXP-100 do not fit on the Z170i Pro Gaming. I have tried every direction and it will not fit. With the heat pipes parallel to the memory the heat sink will land on top of the memory and not allow the heat sink to sit flat and with the heat pipes perpendicular to the memory they hit the wifi module cover and do not allow the heat sink to sit flat there. The only way I can see to use the AXP-100 and the Z170i Pro Graming is to use memory that does not use a heat sink at all. Newegg has some G.Skill that have a black PCB and no heat sink, they are only rated for 2400 mhz, but should allow the AXP-100 to mount parallel to the memory.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231964&cm_re=ddr4_g.skill-_-20-231-964-_-Product

I have ordered a Promilatech Samuel 17 to try and will report back after its installed, I have some LPX and Ripjaw V memory to test along with it.

My main issue is height restrictions, the Node 202 is good for 56mm, the AXP-100 is 58mm and it worked with the case on, the Samuel 17 with 15mm fan will be 60mm. Hopefully there is another 2 mm of clearance between cooler and case.

Here's what the build looks like so far.
post #72 of 85
Well that sounds strange, since on page 6 of this thread Waleh said that AXP-100 Muscle and the Asus motherboard fit, albeit only just. I read from his signature that he is using Corsair Vengeance (LPX?).
post #73 of 85
I am such an idiot, I forgot to remove the plastic at the bottom of the heatsink, hahaha.
After I reinstall the heatsink, the temp lowered to 30-32C with out the case, and hover around 37+- 2 degree with the case. I am using Node 202, which doesn't have a lot of space for ventilation.
and my case fan is blowing air into the case/GPU chamber, so it's not possible to lower the temp further
post #74 of 85
I couldn't agree with you more, they should have a more clear spec of the ram / with installed on the motherboard height, so I won't have an extra heatsink laying around don't know what to do with it redface.gif
post #75 of 85
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Originally Posted by bigjimmy View Post

I am such an idiot, I forgot to remove the plastic at the bottom of the heatsink, hahaha.
After I reinstall the heatsink, the temp lowered to 30-32C with out the case, and hover around 37+- 2 degree with the case. I am using Node 202, which doesn't have a lot of space for ventilation.
and my case fan is blowing air into the case/GPU chamber, so it's not possible to lower the temp further
ROFL
Anyone who has done many builds has done that at least once .. or came extremely close to doing it. thumb.gif
I did it once, and after that I remove the clear film from cooler when I take it out of box. tongue.gif Because I'm often just testing the cooler, then boxing them backup I stick the clear cover to my bench lamp base so I don't loose it.
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Originally Posted by sfbayboater View Post

Corsair LPX and AXP-100 do not fit on the Z170i Pro Gaming. I have tried every direction and it will not fit. With the heat pipes parallel to the memory the heat sink will land on top of the memory and not allow the heat sink to sit flat and with the heat pipes perpendicular to the memory they hit the wifi module cover and do not allow the heat sink to sit flat there. The only way I can see to use the AXP-100 and the Z170i Pro Graming is to use memory that does not use a heat sink at all. Newegg has some G.Skill that have a black PCB and no heat sink, they are only rated for 2400 mhz, but should allow the AXP-100 to mount parallel to the memory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231964&cm_re=ddr4_g.skill-_-20-231-964-_-Product

I have ordered a Promilatech Samuel 17 to try and will report back after its installed, I have some LPX and Ripjaw V memory to test along with it.

My main issue is height restrictions, the Node 202 is good for 56mm, the AXP-100 is 58mm and it worked with the case on, the Samuel 17 with 15mm fan will be 60mm. Hopefully there is another 2 mm of clearance between cooler and case.

Here's what the build looks like so far.
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Originally Posted by Humpuuki View Post

Well that sounds strange, since on page 6 of this thread Waleh said that AXP-100 Muscle and the Asus motherboard fit, albeit only just. I read from his signature that he is using Corsair Vengeance (LPX?).

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Originally Posted by bigjimmy View Post

I couldn't agree with you more, they should have a more clear spec of the ram / with installed on the motherboard height, so I won't have an extra heatsink laying around don't know what to do with it redface.gif
We need an ITX motherboard and cooler comparability thread. While there is a standard for motherboard sizes, mounting pattern and PCIe sockets, there is no standard for CPU or RAM socket placement. This makes cooler comparability a nightmare, especially with so much of the RAM available having tall and often rather wide fake heat spreaders .. which there is absolutely no need for. mad.gif All this RAM 'foo foo' has been going on so long now that 'normal' height RAM is now called 'low profile' .. when all it is the same RAM without the phoney heatspreaders on it. mad.gif Several years ago someone did some testing of RAM with and without supplied 'heat spreaders' and found them worthless .. or even increasing RAM temps. wink.gif

Many many years ago in a land with dragons and fairies the ram used much more voltage, and when being overclocked needed heatsinks. But these days are long gone. Now it's all Carnie barker ballyhooing to draw rubes in for the fleecing.
post #76 of 85
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Originally Posted by bigjimmy View Post

I am such an idiot, I forgot to remove the plastic at the bottom of the heatsink, hahaha.
After I reinstall the heatsink, the temp lowered to 30-32C with out the case, and hover around 37+- 2 degree with the case. I am using Node 202, which doesn't have a lot of space for ventilation.
and my case fan is blowing air into the case/GPU chamber, so it's not possible to lower the temp further
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

ROFL
Anyone who has done many builds has done that at least once .. or came extremely close to doing it. thumb.gif
I did it once, and after that I remove the clear film from cooler when I take it out of box. tongue.gif Because I'm often just testing the cooler, then boxing them backup I stick the clear cover to my bench lamp base so I don't loose it.

I actually mention this in almost all of my later install videos.....not because I think people are idiots....but because I have actually done it so many times. doh.gif
I have even done it on camera in videos that were published by mfg, and then had to re-shoot the sequence when I noticed it..... blushsmiley.gif

What's worse is testing a cooler and thinking that you must have done it, only to find that it simply has really bad performance.
Edited by ciarlatano - 3/1/16 at 5:12am
post #77 of 85
For anyone battling with stupidly designed RAM, get a pair of VLP/ULP sticks. Like those Samsung magic sticks or Kingston Valueram.
They can look ugly but you won't notice them since they don't even extend as high as the locking tabs. And as for performance, they tend to clock no worse while often costing little.

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Kingston UV400 240GB ADATA XPG SX900 64GB Thermalright Macho Rev. B AC Accelero Mono Plus 
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Thermalright TY-147A Windows 8.1 Enterprise 64-bit Dell P2416D Cooler Master V450S 
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Jonsbo U2 
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MSI N3150I ECO Samsung DDR3 SODIMM 2x2GB Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB CHECKMATE. IT'S PASSIVE 
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post #78 of 85
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Originally Posted by sfbayboater View Post

Corsair LPX and AXP-100 do not fit on the Z170i Pro Gaming. I have tried every direction and it will not fit. With the heat pipes parallel to the memory the heat sink will land on top of the memory and not allow the heat sink to sit flat and with the heat pipes perpendicular to the memory they hit the wifi module cover and do not allow the heat sink to sit flat there. The only way I can see to use the AXP-100 and the Z170i Pro Graming is to use memory that does not use a heat sink at all. Newegg has some G.Skill that have a black PCB and no heat sink, they are only rated for 2400 mhz, but should allow the AXP-100 to mount parallel to the memory.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231964&cm_re=ddr4_g.skill-_-20-231-964-_-Product

I have ordered a Promilatech Samuel 17 to try and will report back after its installed, I have some LPX and Ripjaw V memory to test along with it.

My main issue is height restrictions, the Node 202 is good for 56mm, the AXP-100 is 58mm and it worked with the case on, the Samuel 17 with 15mm fan will be 60mm. Hopefully there is another 2 mm of clearance between cooler and case.

Here's what the build looks like so far.

Well i am building the exact same system..same case same mobo same all with a gtx960..was going for axp-100 until i saw this post and then my attention went to the samuel 17 like you...i am grateful that i saw this post before ordering the axp cause there would be trouble with sending back and forth the cooler..as for the samuel you can try the scythe slipstream fans which are 12mm tall so that the total height you go up until 57cm which is totally fine with the 202..will be waiting your answer on the compatibility issues as well as if there are any problems with tall ram heatsinks..
post #79 of 85
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Originally Posted by cosmo21 View Post

Well i am building the exact same system..same case same mobo same all with a gtx960..was going for axp-100 until i saw this post and then my attention went to the samuel 17 like you...i am grateful that i saw this post before ordering the axp cause there would be trouble with sending back and forth the cooler..as for the samuel you can try the scythe slipstream fans which are 12mm tall so that the total height you go up until 57cm which is totally fine with the 202..will be waiting your answer on the compatibility issues as well as if there are any problems with tall ram heatsinks..

We are on the same page about the fan. I ordered the Scythe fan at the same time as a backup. The Promalitech fan is to thick. 60mm is definitely a no go for the Node 202, 58 mm seems to be the limit. I have finished the build and ended up with the Samuel 17 and the Scythe 120mm 12mm fan. In the node 202 you need to make sure that the bend in the heat pipes is facing the 8pin cpu cable, other wise the fan will hit the filter latches and the case top will not go down all the way. All get to loading windows this weekend and do some testing will report back how the Samuel 17 and Scythe fan work as a ITX cooler.



post #80 of 85
ok my friend...will be waiting for your results...really liked the 202 and will upgrade to kaby lake when released so i really need to find a cooler that will keep an i7 at 4.4-4.5 at bay...will be great as my second pc near the tv and the parts are perfect alligned with yours...if the results are discouraging then i will have to go with a stock intel cooler although i will use on of the old ones which are way beeffier than the ones the ship now...nevertheless once you test with the samuel share the results and please mention if any problems occured while using the corsair lpx memories...thnx..
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