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I am running one now with a 8370 @ 4.94 ghz 24/7. With Win X it takes around 40-45 seconds from the time I push the start button until it is loaded and ready to go. That includes me typing in my password using one finger per hand, and with mechanical hard drives.

It destabilizes sooner than the Sabertooth does so it doesn't get the ultimate overclocks, but runs cooler making it the better choice for everyday use IMO. It is a solid everyday board and is the best board MSI ever made. It has also been out of production since last May.

If you want to push it go here and scroll down to the bottom of the first post, and DL Control Center and Click Bios II. CC lets you dial in your OC in windows and CBII then locks it into the bios.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107133.0
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I think you picked up a sweet CPU for livestreaming games or encoding video! While gaming at solid framerates. thumb.gif

Might not overclock very far since the board is 4+2 phase design or something. (edit: 4+1 going by the other comments, but yeah the 4 is what's important. and of course the quality of the phases. they're the phases feeding voltage to the cpu.)
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

I am running one now with a 8370 @ 4.94 ghz 24/7. With Win X it takes around 40-45 seconds from the time I push the start button until it is loaded and ready to go. That includes me typing in my password using one finger per hand, and with mechanical hard drives.

It destabilizes sooner than the Sabertooth does so it doesn't get the ultimate overclocks, but runs cooler making it the better choice for everyday use IMO. It is a solid everyday board and is the best board MSI ever made. It has also been out of production since last May.

If you want to push it go here and scroll down to the bottom of the first post, and DL Control Center and Click Bios II. CC lets you dial in your OC in windows and CBII then locks it into the bios.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107133.0


Thanks miklkit, I know you and cssorkinman like this board. I have been pleasantly surprised. I took my 8320 out of the board because I couldn't figure out how to get a higher vcore. Control Center gives you higher vcore options correct?
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Originally Posted by chrisjames61 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

I am running one now with a 8370 @ 4.94 ghz 24/7. With Win X it takes around 40-45 seconds from the time I push the start button until it is loaded and ready to go. That includes me typing in my password using one finger per hand, and with mechanical hard drives.

It destabilizes sooner than the Sabertooth does so it doesn't get the ultimate overclocks, but runs cooler making it the better choice for everyday use IMO. It is a solid everyday board and is the best board MSI ever made. It has also been out of production since last May.

If you want to push it go here and scroll down to the bottom of the first post, and DL Control Center and Click Bios II. CC lets you dial in your OC in windows and CBII then locks it into the bios.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107133.0


Thanks miklkit, I know you and cssorkinman like this board. I have been pleasantly surprised. I took my 8320 out of the board because I couldn't figure out how to get a higher vcore. Control Center gives you higher vcore options correct?

Only up to 2.0 volts devil.gif

Edit: With good airflow over the vrms it will push a Vishera to the limits of all but the most elaborate custom watercooling. I get better daily overclocks and validations ( temp advatanges - it runs cooler than my other boards) with it than I do on my CHV-Z's however the CHV-Z's will have higher stable clocks during stress testing or with extreme cooling.
Edited by cssorkinman - 10/17/15 at 5:40pm
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There is no need to go that high. I got 4.6 out of the stock bios and an E-type could have gotten more. You will be amazed at how easy to use CC is.
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Stilt, what do you think of the MSI 990FXA-GD80 V2? I know MSI boards are not held in high regard as far as FM2+ and especially AM3+ boards go. I have a 6300 at 4.8 GHz and it seems to not be thermal throttling or anything.

The board is built on decent quality components, however based on the bios it is lacking:

- Load-line control (definitely supported by the hardware)
- DDR-2400 support (1:6 ratio not available in bios)
- ApmMaster mode (disable throttling when turbo is not used)

ApmMaster might be disabled automatically when turbo is disabled, however I cannot verify that.

If I had to pick up a 990FX based board with a budget of

<175$:

- ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 (164.99$ in NewEgg)

<150$:

- ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (Normally 149.99$ in NewEgg, currently 124.99$)

<130$

- Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5 (Normally 129.99$ in NewEgg, currently 109.99$)

990FXA-UD3 from Gigabyte generally have a bad reputation due the VRM issues in older revisions, however the R5 version currently only comes with a good configuration. In terms of VRM 990FXA-UD3 R5 is the same exact thing as 970A-UD3P.
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Stilt, what do you think of the MSI 990FXA-GD80 V2? I know MSI boards are not held in high regard as far as FM2+ and especially AM3+ boards go. I have a 6300 at 4.8 GHz and it seems to not be thermal throttling or anything.

The board is built on decent quality components, however based on the bios it is lacking:

- Load-line control (definitely supported by the hardware)
- DDR-2400 support (1:6 ratio not available in bios)
- ApmMaster mode (disable throttling when turbo is not used)

ApmMaster might be disabled automatically when turbo is disabled, however I cannot verify that.

If I had to pick up a 990FX based board with a budget of

<175$:

- ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 (164.99$ in NewEgg)

<150$:

- ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (Normally 149.99$ in NewEgg, currently 124.99$)

<130$

- Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5 (Normally 129.99$ in NewEgg, currently 109.99$)

990FXA-UD3 from Gigabyte generally have a bad reputation due the VRM issues in older revisions, however the R5 version currently only comes with a good configuration. In terms of VRM 990FXA-UD3 R5 is the same exact thing as 970A-UD3P.

My 990 boards
My favorite - I bought my GD-80 for $144 new at the egg and it came bundled with 8 gb's ( 2x4GB )of Geil veloce ram. Rated at CL9 1600 it went to nearly 2200. I wish I had bought a couple more.
I like the build quality of the 990 UD 5 ,( $125 egg new) but it I think maybe the bios is bugged - it's driving me bonkers, I will try updating it then give it another go.
GD - 65 would be a great match for the 8320e if your clockspeed goal is 4.7 ghz or less. (last one was $59 at the egg AR new) I've had 3 of them,one of which I bought used - had a beta bios on it that went wild hairy ape on me so I ended up having to RMA it. The first one was able to push an 8320 well enough to run POV ray 3.7 at 4960 mhz... I was impressed.
Extreme 3 solid board, terrible LLC, average bios , no problems recommending it as a daily driver for quads or stock X6's not recommended for over 4.2ghz on any 8 core IMHO.
CHV-Z awesome bios , great power delivery, fantastic memory overclocking options / features - questionable quality control... I've got as much rma experience with these 2 boards as I have with the over 100 msi boards I've used.
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post #28 of 43
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Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

The board is built on decent quality components, however based on the bios it is lacking:

- Load-line control (definitely supported by the hardware)
- DDR-2400 support (1:6 ratio not available in bios)
- ApmMaster mode (disable throttling when turbo is not used)

ApmMaster might be disabled automatically when turbo is disabled, however I cannot verify that.

If I had to pick up a 990FX based board with a budget of

<175$:

- ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 (164.99$ in NewEgg)

<150$:

- ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (Normally 149.99$ in NewEgg, currently 124.99$)

<130$

- Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 R5 (Normally 129.99$ in NewEgg, currently 109.99$)

990FXA-UD3 from Gigabyte generally have a bad reputation due the VRM issues in older revisions, however the R5 version currently only comes with a good configuration. In terms of VRM 990FXA-UD3 R5 is the same exact thing as 970A-UD3P.



I must says the vrm of the gigabyte seem good temp wise..

But may have Vdroop with high overclock.

And the bios is the ugliest thing i have ever seen on the ud3p 970a I have no idea if the 990fx is better?


Asus bios is awesome.


Damn sabertooth in canada is like 250$
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Some of my GD-80 shenanigans
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post #30 of 43
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My 990 boards
My favorite - I bought my GD-80 for $144 new at the egg and it came bundled with 8 gb's ( 2x4GB )of Geil veloce ram. Rated at CL9 1600 it went to nearly 2200. I wish I had bought a couple more.
I like the build quality of the 990 UD 5 ,( $125 egg new) but it I think maybe the bios is bugged - it's driving me bonkers, I will try updating it then give it another go.
GD - 65 would be a great match for the 8320e if your clockspeed goal is 4.7 ghz or less. (last one was $59 at the egg AR new) I've had 3 of them,one of which I bought used - had a beta bios on it that went wild hairy ape on me so I ended up having to RMA it. The first one was able to push an 8320 well enough to run POV ray 3.7 at 4960 mhz... I was impressed.
Extreme 3 solid board, terrible LLC, average bios , no problems recommending it as a daily driver for quads or stock X6's not recommended for over 4.2ghz on any 8 core IMHO.
CHV-Z awesome bios , great power delivery, fantastic memory overclocking options / features - questionable quality control... I've got as much rma experience with these 2 boards as I have with the over 100 msi boards I've used.

UD3 R5 (and 970A-UD3P) are in fact better than UD5 R5 in terms of VRM.
UD5 R5 has analog & doubled VRM while the UD3 R5 and UD3P have digital and doubled VRM.
Makes sense huh rolleyessmileyanim.gif

Intersil more recent analog solutions are not too bad, but still far behind any IR digital controller.
The IR drivers paired with the VRM are also stronger than the ones on analog boards.
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